I think that claiming we have no responsibility to plan ahead because we’re all doomed, so we can just “chill the fuck out and do unreasonable amounts of drugs” is more wishful thinking and vibes than anything

“The irony of removing my comment for opening breaking the rules, when the person I was replying to was saying things *I disagree with!”

-person who doesn’t know what irony is

Good one

As ever, modlog is public

There explanation missed the fact that you were lying

Ok

Uhuh

Sucks for you that the modlog is public

When people complain about getting their comments removed by ml mods, inevitably these are the kind of comments they mean.

They’re lying, by the way. Try actually looking at the modlog

Lol, I bet you’re going to wine that you are “just disagreeing” when this get removed too.

Seriously, every fucking time.

You really think I’m going to keep taking you seriously after bullshit like this?

Fuck off, you lying white supremacist troll. Take your fascist “agenda” elsewhere.

Lol. You lying scumbag; you were the one who started with the abuse and silly claims.

You’re correct: it was not a 24 hour ban: I misread it because it happened to have 24 hours left when I checked it.

And this is what all your attempts at high minded apologism is reduced to when actually faced with any push back.

Classic white supremacist: their beliefs are just normal, everyone who disagrees with them “has an agenda”.

Fuck off, at this point you’re just admitting that you consider any disagreement with you to be inherently invalid: an agenda

You are treating any distinction I make as if it is an attempt to portray europe as moral.

Because you are. You’re trying to portray Europe as having the moral right to police Russia’s behavior.

europe has taken part in serious crimes and carries responsibility for them.

Though not, apparently, in any way that you think should prevent Europe from acting as world police or open them up to retaliation.

My point is that political systems are not identical.

No, your point was that your political system is better, and thus Europe should not be judged as harshly. But it isn’t and it should.

Europe’s structures are too often captured by interests and often fail

Yes, which is why they are not different to Russia.

but they still allow for leadership changes, court rulings, investigations and public pressure

I already went into detail about why that’s bullshit. You completely ignoring that to just restate your bullshit assertion is the height of cowardice.

Even in eastern europe elections have been re-run and parties banned after proven foreign interference

If you’re seriously going to try to argue that Europe has only banned leftist parties after “proven foreign interference” then you’re straight up just a McCarthyist fascist and you might as well start ranting about Judeo-Bolshevick conspiracies, because that’s where you’re at politically.

These mechanisms are limited, but they exist. Russia removes them entirely.

As I stated before (and you ignored), that is worse for Europe then: having these mechanisms and choosing never to use them to prevent genocidal atrocity is worse than not having them at all.

Acknowledging this difference is not excusing western actions.

Lol. That’s nonsense: your whole argument has been in service of excusing western actions. Literally your whole point was that Europe’s atrocities arnt as bad because European chose to commit them.

If your view is that any distinction is a double standard

My view is coming up with a bunch of rationalisation to defend European atrocities, which are vacuous at best and outright false at worst, is a double standard. Because, as I said before (and you ignored), you would never in a million years try to come up with these kind of rationalisations for any country other than European ones.

we don’t want nor need war in europe

A great many Europeans are absolutely frothing at the mouth for war with Russia. And it’s true that the rest of you don’t want it in Europe: but in the middle east instead.

but russia (a fully captured state) seems hell bent on bringing it.

Yeah; once again, Europeans are in no position to accuse other countries of being “hell bent on bringing war” (or of being fully captured).

I suppose that when it eventually falls, it will fall hard.

Uhuh. Once again. You might as well start ranting about Judeo-Bolshevick conspiracies and white, European destiny.

Because I can read the modlog, genius.

but the UK has left the European Union

Which is irrelevant, they are still part of Europe.

clearly America’s plaything

Most of Europe is.

so we can safely exclude them from the category of “Europe”,

No you can’t, that’s fucking absurd.

while Poland sent so few troops it became a meme.

“Oh, they only did a little bit of brutal war of aggression that killed millions, that’s fine.”

Fuck off, you would never in a million years try to make this kind of argument for a country outside of Europe.

Most of the European countries who sent troops did so only after a unanimous UN security council resolution,

Oh, so you admit you straight up lied about the rest of Europe sending troops to Iraq. And which un resolution are you referring to? (As if Europe has ever respected un resolutions)

my country’s prime minister has been couped for defying American foreign policy, and the leading opposition are deeply-ingrained America-sycophants.

So your country is a play thing of America then, and a vessel of its genocidal empire.

The issue of Palestine is even more fraught than Iraq because of Epstein.

The issue of actively helping to commit the modern Holocaust is not “fraught because of Epstein”. What a fucked up thing to say. Though not surprising given your earlier genocide denial.