Yeah? Where did you hear this?

Are you 12?

“Trying to actually take actions to bring about change is not useful, and we should discard it. Instead we should focus on the important thing: complaining about Drumpf online”.

How is the weather at Eglin?

We need to stop with the praxis

Yes, hello officer

Big “science is just another religion!” energy.

Which part are you having trouble with?

This is fucking medieval peasant level thinking: “Venezuelas economy is bad because Madura doesn’t have the mandate of heaven!”

As opposed to your “no response”. You’ve got nothing because you know they’re right

Power corrupts.

A meaningless platitude; as baseless as saying that lightning never strikes the same place twice. Liberals just think it’s true because they’ve created a system where people who were already corrupt gain power.

The only true answer is not play,

Yeah man, people should just “not play” real life. Fuck me, Western liberals really are the most privileged fuckers: all just a game to them.

You’ll notice that there are no real arguments that he isn’t a authoritarian/dictator.

???.

Other than the arguments people are making that he was democratically elected. Those are objectively arguments, regardless of your feelings on them.

Maduro absolutely is an authoritarian

Name one country that is oppositional to the West that you don’t “consider” authoritarian.

D-day wouldn’t be included because the goal wasn’t expansion.

Wasn’t it? They intended to take German territory to expand France, Belgium, the Netherlands, etc.

I see you have your cut and paste propaganda all ready to go there.

Oh yeah, famous Chinese propaganda outlet: The Atlantic.

Fuck off; you’re just using the word “propaganda” to mean "anything I disagree with. There is nothing that anyone could say to you to disagree that you wouldn’t immediately say “that’s propaganda and therefore wrong!” to.

It worked out about the same too

Are you stupid? Iraq immediately erupted into long term insurgency, a thing that categorically did not happen in Crimea or Donbas.

including debt-trap diplomacy, undermining local sovereignty and regulation, and undermining labor movements.

Notice how you have these facts in your brain that you’re sure are true but can’t actually identify why you think they’re true? That’s what being propagandized feels like.

Skill issue, says the person who isn’t even trying to do it themselves

Presumably they would look not-authoritarian

And what does that even look like? Something like Allende, I’m guessing.

Human Rights Watch

The liberal Zionist western propaganda outlet?

Great man theory is bunk

How was fighting against the Nazis different from being the Nazis?

No, I do not. I will not stop. The question remains unanswered: What’s the difference? Would it be justiified for France to notice that Wallonia hasn’t held a referendum on joining them, invade and then hold their own referendum there?

Look, obviously I’m not going to humour this deliberately playing dumb. You know what the difference is.

I reject that Russia is credibly representing the self-determination of the people of the Donbas, Zap Oblast or Kherson by holding sham elections in territory they don’t even entirely control. What about those who fled those areas?

I have repeatedly told you that the referendum was before the invasion. I can only assume that you pretending otherwise is just another instance of you deliberately wasting time.

So you unironicaly believe that someone must believe that any referendum ever, regardless of context, regardless of voting methods, regardless of conduct should be accepted or all rejected?

Better system than your “referendums are only legitimate if they agree with what I want” perspective.

You mean the referendum held in an area 1/4 the overall size of the Donbass? Where most people from the Donbass couldn’t vote? That referendum?

The one you had to be repeatedly told happened before the Russian invasion.

So no ability to answer. As usual.

Ok, I’ll start doing it to. What do you mean? I clearly gave you an answer. As I have mostly. What do you think “giving an answer” means? And what do you think “usual” means?

You do realise that (1) that referendum only took place in a small pocket of the Donbas.

You didn’t even know what year it took place in before this conversation

Nor that does that, even if somehow representative, account for the citizens of the Zap or Kherson oblasts.

You also clearly don’t realize that they aren’t part of Donbas.

Yes, it was.

Nope. Anyone can go back and read what you said.

Why would Ukraine acknowledge and legitimise a referendum held by occupying powers who forcibly took land from them?

I have repeatedly told you that the referendum was before the invasion. I can only assume that you pretending otherwise is just another instance of you deliberately wasting time.

Absolutely. But do you have any credible evidence that a majority of people from the Donbass wanted to leave?

So no, you don’t recognize the conflict of interest.

So you do, what, reject or accept all referendums do you?

Better system than your “referendums are only legitimate if they agree with what I want” perspective.

You still haven’t given me a single reason to accept the Russian referendums held in 2022 in occupied Donbass/Kherson/Zap as fairly conducted.

I have repeatedly told you that the referendum was before the invasion. I can only assume that you pretending otherwise is just another instance of you deliberately wasting time.

That is indeed a good argument for voting, but voting third party

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Your point was, indeed, you pinkwashing