Early last week, I was at the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library for its first weekend. At the library itself, despite President Donald Trump inserting himself incongruously into the opening ceremonies, I did not see a single person sporting a Trump-branded clothing item.

The town of Medora, North Dakota, itself was, however, a different story. It wasn’t overwhelming. But for someone who lives in an urban center of a blue state, where even in the ruby red rural areas most people have become sufficiently shamed to shut up about their MAGA tendencies, a single errant MAGA cap is a rarity.

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    24 hours ago

    the people doing something about it you won’t hear about

    We’ll hear about it if it’s a complete peaceful shutdown. You’re wrong about protests too, we see news on those quite often.

    you won’t hear…

    Yeah we do, we do all the time. They actually do it properly though.

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      Hey, guess what, people have been trying to organize a peaceful shut down but that’s hard to do for a country about the size of a continent, and when people are already working three jobs to have enough money to survive and worried they will be homeless if they take a day off.

      And no, sorry, you don’t hear about everything people are doing, because a lot of those changes happen locally. You hear about the new mayor of New York, but you don’t hear about a new progressive DEI program in a smaller town in Alabama. You don’t hear about a local neighborhood ice watch in Minnesota. You don’t hear about a petition going around in Ohio to reform voting on a local level.

      You don’t hear about people starting phone trees, ride shares, food banks. Hell even people in the area might not know about them.

      So sorry that what people are doing isn’t sensationalist enough to make international headlines, but it’s the sand in the gears and the level people on the ground level can actually do.

      Also if you think your country’s media doesn’t have bias, then you’re ripe for indoctrination and propaganda.

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      You’re a total moron and there is no point explaining anything to you or arguing with you, but I’m confident that you’d tell victims of the Holocaust that they deserved it, because that’s pretty much what you’re doing now. Except unlike in Germany, the majority of the country’s population is on the list to die, rather than a relatively small group of people. The majority of Americans share characteristics that the regime wants to eliminate, and the number of hated traits are numerous, not tied only to race or religion.

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        23 hours ago

        You’re a total moron

        It’s okay, I understand. You’re lashing out.

        Im confident you’d tell…

        And you’re calling me a moron.

        If you get another fair chance, just get out and vote, in both the primary and the main election. Beyond that I don’t care and I don’t care what you think of me, just get out and do it regardless who the candidate ends up being, and get your friends and family to do the same. Help anyone who can’t.

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          Do you genuinely believe “get out and vote” is a viable solution in the US, or is this ragebait?

          Again, this is really really for real fascism, not like the kind on TV or in fiction. This is real life.

          Do you know what the Electoral College is and why it exists?

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            23 hours ago

            Do you genuinely believe

            Yes. The evidence suggests it’s true. So, yes.

            Do you know…

            Yes, and it didn’t stop Biden or Clinton being elected when they got enough votes did it? Yes I know what it is and I know it’s a problem. Unfortunately for the w3 cAnTd0 aNaThAng argument, it has put Democrats in as well.

            Honestly, only Americans get away with this ay…continuing to make disproven arguments valid. Anyone else tried this, it’d be out of line.

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              … no they were not elected because of votes. I’m sure that the media made a big deal about the votes. It doesn’t actually matter, they could have just picked someone else. Democrats are the same as Republicans in terms of impact on real people. The only difference is the PR. Obama did the whole prison camp for immigrants thing too.

              w3 cAnTd0 aNaThAng

              I didn’t say we can’t do anything.

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                Well, yeah you are saying you can’t do anything.

                Seriously if Americans were as committed to the electoral process as they are finding excuses for the government they elected they’d have the most progressive government in the world. Being tribal about your politics isn’t committing to the electoral process either.

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                    You’re gonna have to.

                    Not only is it not our responsibility, we can’t help. Believe me, us sanctioning the US will only turn your government against us. All we can do is what we are…ride it out, be as friendly as we can (the reason Australia goes above and beyond is because of who we are and a little debt from WW2 but the citizenry’s patience is being tested) and try not to poke the bear too much.

                    But it’s your job and your responsibility, not ours. We were told to mind our own business for years when we warned US citizens this was coming during the Obama tenure, when Ryan and Gingrich started their obstructionist crap.

                    The sooner you all get together on a peaceful shutdown the better off you’ll be.