Early last week, I was at the Theodore Roosevelt Presidential Library for its first weekend. At the library itself, despite President Donald Trump inserting himself incongruously into the opening ceremonies, I did not see a single person sporting a Trump-branded clothing item.

The town of Medora, North Dakota, itself was, however, a different story. It wasn’t overwhelming. But for someone who lives in an urban center of a blue state, where even in the ruby red rural areas most people have become sufficiently shamed to shut up about their MAGA tendencies, a single errant MAGA cap is a rarity.

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    Trump won because the Electoral College thought a “strong Republican President” was “what the country needed.” There is absolutely nothing I or anyone in my social class could have done to influence this decision.

    The difference between the Third Reich and America is that Germans had some small influence over who they elected in the form of votes that were actually counted.

    No, Americans in general cannot decide who the president is. Our presidential elections are theater and have been since slavery was abolished.

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      So if that’s the case, how did Biden manage to win? Did the Republicans let him?

      Did they let Clinton win?

      Nope, if enough turn out to vote, the US will get the president they want.

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        Biden won because the electoral college wanted him to win. He belongs to the same social class as Trump.

        Yes, they let Clinton win.

        No, it doesn’t matter who we vote for. The only options are their people, and then they get to disregard which of their people that we pick if they want to.

        “Voting won’t help” isn’t the same thing as giving up, but it is an acknowledgment of our reality.

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          Yeah honestly, this is just sad to watch. They won because they were elected. Like Mamdani.

          This is just snivelling stuff.

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              Mamdani proves that voting works.

              You know damn well I’m aware that he’s not a federal rep and you’re also aware of why I’m using him as an example. Stop trying to fudge the conversation because your argument is weak.

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                Voting for mayor or for local elections is a completely different process as opposed to voting for president. If you’re voting for a mayoral or local election, your vote is directly counted (allegedly). That isn’t the case for presidential elections.

                No, I have no idea why you’re using Mamdani as an example. You clearly know less about how our government works than the average American. Please do some googling before returning to this conversation, I will not reply until you know what I’m talking about and can respond to what I’m actually saying to you.

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                  It’s the same principle which still ends the same way.

                  allegedly

                  So you don’t know what you’re talking about?

                  I have no idea

                  I can do a crayon picture if you like…he won the primary based on getting more votes and did the same to win his election.

                  Piss around with semantics all you want, the principle is the same and so is the process pretty much.

                  You don’t want him used as an example because he disproves your point. That he’s not a federal rep makes no difference to that point, because it works for them too. As Biden proved.

                  I couldn’t give a fuck if you don’t reply. Good, fuck off. One less Seppo bothering my day.

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                    I understand that you cannot and will not help the American people defeat fascism, you will not lead or follow, my only hope is that you will get out of the way. And stop allowing your government to appease our dictator. In all likelihood the only thing you will ever do is be angry at Americans online.

                    You’re blocked, btw. This post is for everybody else.