Claiming Leninists aren’t communist is a bit like claiming Jeffersonians aren’t capitalist. “No no! He purchased Louisiana with state money! Adam Smith explicitly said you shouldn’t do this!”
That user is suggesting that the Party administration, by virtue of controlling the means of production was definitionally not proletariat, but in fact the most concentrated group of bourgeois administrators.
the Party administration, by virtue of controlling the means of production
Before the Russian Civil War was even over? An incredible feat of administrative enginuity.
the most concentrated group of bourgeois administrators
The Soviet Bureaucracy was 5.4M people strong by 1920. Even assuming you dismiss the existence of Communes as autonomous self-governing bodies, that’s 4% of the total population.
This is what we’re describing as highly concentrated bourgeois wealth?
And we’re comparing it to King George V who - as a singular person - controlled 37% of the entire national economy through his titles, lands, and equity in various British conglomerates?
Administration is not a class in Marxist understanding. Classes are relations to ownership of the means of production and distribution. Principals and teachers are both proletarian, despite having different managerial levels.
Claiming Leninists aren’t communist is a bit like claiming Jeffersonians aren’t capitalist. “No no! He purchased Louisiana with state money! Adam Smith explicitly said you shouldn’t do this!”
Leninist created a government with a extremwly powerful class, that owned all means of production. Please explain us how’s that communism
The… proletariat class? Are you suggesting a working class in Russia didn’t exist prior to 1917?
That user is suggesting that the Party administration, by virtue of controlling the means of production was definitionally not proletariat, but in fact the most concentrated group of bourgeois administrators.
Before the Russian Civil War was even over? An incredible feat of administrative enginuity.
The Soviet Bureaucracy was 5.4M people strong by 1920. Even assuming you dismiss the existence of Communes as autonomous self-governing bodies, that’s 4% of the total population.
This is what we’re describing as highly concentrated bourgeois wealth?
And we’re comparing it to King George V who - as a singular person - controlled 37% of the entire national economy through his titles, lands, and equity in various British conglomerates?
The workers didn’t own the means of production!
They literally do.
Administration is not a class in Marxist understanding. Classes are relations to ownership of the means of production and distribution. Principals and teachers are both proletarian, despite having different managerial levels.