• wuffah@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    Russian incompetence in this war quite frankly exceeds the level of Soviet collapse by an order of magnitude. I like to think Trump is being played by Putin, but it sure does seem like they’re on pretty much the same level strategically.

    What a perfect example of Soviet-style fascism. Putin needs a lead lobotomy.

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      11 hours ago

      I disagree that they’re on the same level strategically. This is only bad for Putin if he cares about Russian people. He doesn’t, so it’s not a failure. This was/is about legacy building. He’s a modern emperor fighting an endless war because admitting defeat would look bad. Ironically, it’s exactly what led to the last Russian emperor to be removed by the people.

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        He does not care about the people, he cares about what those people might do to him. His legacy is now one of the worst leaders, like we are talking about in 50 years having a good chuckle reading about his massive failure that called itself an “empire”.

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      14 hours ago

      I have been saying for years that Putin’s intelligence is mediocre at best. People kept telling me he had The Big Brain (even those who hate him).

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        12 hours ago

        Compared to Trump he’s a genius, but that’s mostly because Trump could probably be diagnosed with a serious intellectual deficiency if any honest doctor got the chance to examine him.

        In terms of real intelligence, Putin’s no mastermind, though. Americas problems can’t be blamed on Russian manipulation, since any manipulation on their part is inept at best. You got yourself into your current mess all by yourselves.

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        9 hours ago

        He embraced neonazism liberalism, which the architect of Liberal Shock Therapy has said repeatedly is a mistake, so maybe he’s not unintelligent, but like the rest of the Good Guy Liberals©, is just doing Kabuki theatre until he, too, can get to his bunkers.

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      16 hours ago

      The assessment of Putin is quite accurate. He could only do low intensity conflicts and he has a habit of starting something but is never able to finish. Even Georgia is an unfinished business.

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        12 hours ago

        Well that’s a new one. Usually it’s blaming NATO from .ml, but the US installed putin as the leader of Russia? How, and to what end?

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          11 hours ago

          Interesting that you differentiate the US and the US in a trenchcoat as two entities. How? Shock doctrine and the cold war. The US tries to place someone more malliable to their benefit in power, and like the rest of them it always ends up biting them back.

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            9 hours ago

            While the US certainly does that broadly, Putin is not the beneficiary of such a ploy. That’s one of the few major bad things in global politics that the US did not do.

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                He didn’t particularly benefit, his trajectory could have been just as productive under the Soviet government. It’s not like he was a total outsider. If anything it might have stalled his political career advancement a few years.

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      17 hours ago

      What? Russia has advanced significantly into Ukraine despite the entirety of NATO backing the Ukrainian forces and forced violent conscription in Ukraine…

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        11 hours ago

        The “entirety of NATO” didn’t back the Ukrainian forces in the first 3 days. Your favourite “superpower” somehow failed to take the capital of a smaller state that was mostly fighting with the very same “superior” hardware Russia is using. It took several weeks, if not months, for western military support to actually arrive on the battlefield. All while those “unbeatable” Russian tanks either got stolen by Ukrainian farmers using tractors, or blown to bits by DIY anti tank explosives.

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          9 hours ago

          Yeah, in the opening days of the invasion, the western powers were primed to wag their fingers and write sternly worded letters at the presumptive conquest of Ukraine. They weren’t happy, but I think they were all too ready to just let it happen.

          Only after Ukraine showed that it actually had some capability and will to successfully resist, then it became worthwhile for more substantial, though still indirect support from a lot of NATO nations.

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        16 hours ago

        Russia has advanced significantly into Ukraine despite the entirety of NATO backing the Ukrainian forces and forced violent conscription in Ukraine…

        You trailed off there at the end, but so far everything you said is exaggerated to comical levels and completely unfounded.

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          9 hours ago

          No it isn’t. Putin didn’t violate the Minsk or any other agreement. Ukraine, USA, and NATO did.

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              The very idea that the nation who in mid invasion of the very nation the Minsk agreement is for is somehow not breaking the treaty that says no one will invade that very nation is wild and some real amazing dissociation.

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                Yeah. And it’s not even the only treaty they’ve broken. Like the Budapest Memorandum providing security assurances for Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, or the neat little agreement not to change borders in Europe with military force. And then there are all those countless broken ceasefire agreements in this current conflict…

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                  Almost as if every nation around them have been stating no one can trust a russain word or treaty for a while now. Look at Poland who for many many years has been screaming at the top of Rysy mountain about russia being a threat and even now people out side of the former soviet bloc keep thinking this can be fixed by another agreement in writing. That a good talk and document will change the russian stance in the world.

                  The reason Ukraine does stop fighting and has little hope in a peace treaty is that a russian treaty is not even as worthwhile as toilet paper. This is in fact a very bad thing for russia on the world stage, no one trusts them at all. The only ones willing to work with them are using them and plan to squeeze them for everything they can (China, North Korea, India). This is how empires end, they are not strong enough to be the bully in the world and have zero credibility outside of being a contrarian talking point. The same thing is happening to israel and the states right now, who would want to sign a trump deal that he will rip up in a few months? Or a cease fire with netanyahu? Whats the point?

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            13 hours ago

            Shit’s horrific. But sure, Europe and the US are propping up this totally democratic state for the Ukrainian people.

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              7 hours ago

              Welcome to Russia Post, a digital platform for commentary and analysis of Russia-related issues, operated by The Russia Program at the George Washington University in Washington, D.C.

              Bro, wtf is this shit.

              So the draft is morally questionable and you’ve seen the footage provided and now you find excuses in Washington, D.C.? Cope harder, buddy.

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                7 hours ago

                The article is written by a Russian about his home region in Russia. Would you rather if someone from fellow St Petersburg Institute have written the article, tovarisch?

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                  7 hours ago

                  Your “article” is originally (as stated and linked) from Radio Free Europe, a US financed, CIA founded anti-Soviet media outlet with the sole purpose to spread propaganda. So, for one, you’re spreading US propaganda.

                  Anyway, the topic was about the systematic, forceful obduction of Ukrainian citizens by their own government, only to imprison them, torture them and then throw them into the meat grinder. So, your whataboutism is using US propaganda to distract away from that, which is shady as fuck, “comrade”.

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                    Predictably comrade, you are repeating the same old RFE this, RFE that. Straight from your handlers playbook that people have been hearing from years. Who cares? What is so bad about spreading democratic ideals? Is the colour revolution bad because it usurps Kremlin-aligned kleptocrats? Is this why Russia promotes regressive dark enlightenment ideas and being associated with Epstein.

                    Anyway, the topic was about the systematic, forceful obduction of Ukrainian citizens by their own government

                    Well done, you just figured out how draft works 👏👏. But predictably, you won’t mention about Russian authorities drafting students, street raids and coercing businesses to send youths. So, how is Russia better as you are implying? One side is fighting for survival, the other is forcefully recruited to suck their superior’s dick. Cry me a river. Oh and before you say anything, if Ukrainians are indeed tortured by their state, they would not be so motivated to cause Russia a net territorial loss this year and Putin just waivered bond auctions which could lead to the Russian state defaulting. You better leave your office in St Petersburg, tovarisch, before Russia collapses again in just less than a generation. You don’t want to live the 1990s again. The couple of cents you gained from few previous posts should let you buy a plane ticket out of there 🫡