Even with android custom ROMs like Lineage, support eventually ends. Meanwhile, you can just slap on linux onto any old computer and its still getting the latest updates. 🤔

Why not just do the same thing with phones? Forever phone updates? 👀

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    This is changing. Microsoft is trying to restrict Windows 10 -> uploads based on having a user-hostile TPM module to make PCs more locked down, just like phones.

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      user-hostile TPM module

      I mean, the module itself is fine. Some linux distros can also take advantage of that with full disk encryption, instead of putting keys in the ram, store in in TPM which make it harder for keys to get extracted if it gets stole while on.

      But of course microsoft is gonna try to use it nefariously for some DRM stuff.

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        It would be fine if we lived in a utopia, but not fine when corporations have the power to require that you use one, or else you can’t use their services.

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          So far the only companies making you use one are the multiplayer gaming companies that are using TPMs for hardware IDs to ban cheaters and expensive corporate software using them for remote attestation on hardware the company owns.

          If you’re salty about the whole Windows 10 thing, you’ve got until at least October 2027 until Microsoft drops support for it (security beyond the 10 year window announced at the launch of Windows 10 cost like 5 bucks a month though) or you can install an OS from someone who’s still willing to maintain support for old hardware, like Google’s ChromeOS or maybe Linux.

          It’s only really a problem if you’re unwilling to pay for (or pirate) updates and are afraid to separate yourself from the large corporations building your current OS.

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      Wasn’t microsoft the only phone manufacturer to ship a standard uefi on their devices? I mean before they eventually scraped what was left off of nokia.

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      I don’t think this is going to change the overall situation, it’s just a single point new system requirement, like the plausible GPU was for Vista.

      Now, if they start expiring the old TPMs every few years, and Windows 12 needs a TPM 4.0 or something, then this will change the overall situation. At least on the Windows side.

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        The fact that perfectly capable PCs aren’t getting security updates is just part of it. Once Microsoft and other corporations can ensure that your computer is no longer completely controlled by the user (as the TPM ensures) they can start locking it down, first in the name of security, but then just like how some phones have apps that you can’t uninstall, or how printers force you to use name brand ink at a huge markup.

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          Yeah, a TPM is, essentially, a piece of bondage gear. It’s shackles put on you to try and convince someone else of what you can’t do. It has niche applications but it’s not a valid thing to require of the general population.