• AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    That’s perfect honestly, thank you. I think hoarding is also driven by scarcity, but fear as well. And that even if we eliminated scarcity, some people would still feel compelled to hoarde.

    We just have to agree to disagree here, at least that’s where I’m at. Maybe if we got rid of scarcity nobody would feel the need to hoarde, but I’m not so sure.

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      2 days ago

      If humans can be conditioned to fear and greed, they can be re-conditioned to relative security and sharing. It would take reconditioning societies and economic models, first.

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        1 day ago

        We weren’t conditioned to feel fear tho. A baby hears a loud crack of thunder and starts crying, why? Nobody taught the baby to be afraid of thunder.

        Even if we could somehow recondition every member of society perfectly, that innate fear would always remain. That’s where we are differing it seems

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          17 hours ago

          So you’re telling me a beaten child or dog isn’t conditioned to feeling fear.

          What, exactly do you think PTSD, c-PTSD, dissociative disorder, personality disorders and any number of other diagnoses are? They’re certainly not innate.

          Edit to add, do you still cry when your meals are delayed, or your stomach aches?

          No. You’ve come to accept (you’ve been conditioned) and understand you will eat again, a discomfort will pass.

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      2 days ago

      We can see already that people do not tend to hoard that which isn’t scarce, and further even if someone tried, we do not need to allow it.