• Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world
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    Pretty sure you have to be under arrest for them to be allowed to conduct a search off your person, and have a warrant for them to search the phone.

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      The 4th amendment is largely suspended at international border crossings. It’s a travesty. This has been steadily built in supreme court rulings since 1925, but a 1977 ruling says the searches are inherently reasonable because they occur at the border. No probable cause or warrant is required.

      If you really want to be depressed, Google “4th amendment free zones” which essentially means this doctrine applies within 100 air miles of an international border crossing.

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        Which of course is almost nearly everywhere in the United States at this point since I think most states have an international airport

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          Was fairly certain the above only applies to land/sea borders for this reason.

          Airports themselves count, but not a ~100mi radius. I think.

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          yes and they’ve extended the boundrie sof these borders to such an extent that 2/3rds of americans are located inside them; effectively meaning that 67% of americans have no such constitutional rights.

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      Article says he asked for a lawyer 4 times, got none.

      Also I’d love to get the audio/video feed of the interaction. I imagine bullet-head cop holding the phone and demanding “the passcode”

      “Passcode for you is 3475417, pig”

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        Article says he asked for a lawyer 4 times, got none.

        Dude, learn about the laws of a Fascist country before you try and enter. Border agents do not have to let you access a lawyer, you actually have no legal rights, even as a US citizen.

        No General Right: Travelers at a U.S. port of entry or border checkpoint do not have a constitutional right to have an attorney present or provided during routine questioning or administrative processing.

        You want to act like a tough guy, enjoy your hourly cavity searches.

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      No General Right: Travelers at a U.S. port of entry or border checkpoint do not have a constitutional right to have an attorney present or provided during routine questioning or administrative processing

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          No no

          It wipes the original data still, just without showing it

          The dummy profile looks like the original, like theres some photos and contacts, some texts and a few apps, of course setup by the user

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            gonna have to be quick. as soon as it’s unlocked, they’re going to hook it up to USB. now, having the duress password completely disable the USB port too, now we’re getting somewhere.

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      The officer typed the code. Prison seems a bit much, but I do hope he looses his job and has to pay compensation to the victim

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    IF (extremely huge “if”) I ever go to the US, it will be without a phone. I’ll just bring a meshcore device for me and whoever accompanies me and a digital camera (thoroughly wiped before going there). I’ll add some laptop or handheld (a wiped steam deck could be perfect) just in case I need internet access for something like my bank, but in absolutely no way I’m travelling there with my phone or any kind of personal device that has the slightest portion of my personal data for an asshole to try and find it.

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        I can’t be 100% sure because the company I work for has now some ties to the US so there is a very remote possibility that one day I’ll have to go there for work, but yeah, that would be the only way I’d go there.

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      I don’t really think the US has anything to offer that would make it worthwhile tbh. There’s so many beautiful countries in the world to see

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      I ever go to the US, it will be without a phone.

      That would mark you as suspicious and you will get detained.

      As will:

      1. A burner phone

      2. a recently wiped phone

      3. an analog phone

      Just avoid the country.

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        In my case, I’d be suspicious even with a phone since I use a grapheneOS pixel, don’t have any social media outside this (which, by the way was created with a burner email) and rarely take pictures of anything (i have a polaroid for that). My phone would look suspicious AF just because how barebones it is so at that point, if I absolutely had to go there, I wouldn’t bring it with me and take my chances.

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    When I recently reentered the country this year there literally was no security process other than scanning my face and my passport at an automated thing. After that, it was just walk on through. No talking with any agents, no search of my carry on bags (at least until going through TSA to fly domestically).

    I think people’s checked baggage was heavily scrutinized and scanned, but not any carry on. It was honestly kind of crazy. Like what if I had come from a country with virtually no exit security, and then was not flying domestically after that? I feel it would have been quite easy to smuggle things into the country in that case. Meanwhile they occasionally freak out and force people to let them search their phone? It makes little sense to me