• bloogoose@lemmy.zip
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      15 hours ago

      What slight improvement to society is being talked about here? I know you wanted to participate, but try adding something to the conversation instead of a misused meme.

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        14 hours ago

        you are dismissing talk of holding actual problems accountable, to focus on inconsequential individual accountability, specifically using the “but you have are using an iphone, i am very smart” argument to not actually have to argue a point. you have been consistently dishonest in your messaging and it shows.

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          13 hours ago

          Thanks for dismanteling his argumentation and putting it into context so well :)

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            13 hours ago

            “Thanks for supporting the opinion I already have because considering the alternative feels bad :)” - jafra

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          13 hours ago

          Inconsequential? How is our buying habits inconsequential? You can’t hold a problem accountable…

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            12 hours ago

            because our buying habits are shaped by necessity and availability. to argue that the individual needs to change would require agreement to the degree of millions of people all at once, who have the privilege of choice make a substantial change, and even then the systems in place would defend itself from this change. in a discussion about needing to hold corporations and systems accountable, you argue for the responsibility of the individual, a concept that uses the most effort for the smallest gain, if any.

            the concept of the free market is and has always been bull shit. the free market ideology requires the consumer to have: 1. maximal choice, 2. maximal and complete knowlege of every facet of a product (a. it’s ecological cost, b. it’s social cost, c. it’s manufacture, d. it’s transport, e. its storage, f. it’s operational harm ect. ) and every facet of every other option to compare. as well as truth in marketing which is antithetical to marketing itself.

            in a discussion about the need to hold the system accountable, attempting to narrow it to the individual is a distraction to progress