• Rothe@piefed.social
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    9 hours ago

    Seems to me that it does in fact mean that that excuse for gun proliferation is pretty useless.

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      7 hours ago

      Well that’s one hell of a non-sequitur. To make a sweeping generalization, it’s not the guns’ fault that Americans are cowards.

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        5 hours ago

        A majority of US gun owners like what the government is doing, how does that make them cowards?

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            4 hours ago

            So they are supposed to kill the majority of Americans who have guns that like what the government is doing?

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              2 hours ago

              The majority of Americans do not like what the government is doing, as seen from its approval rating, but also armed revolution usually doesn’t happen by killing away everyone who disagrees with you.

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                2 hours ago

                The majority of Americans with guns do like what the government is doing though. Gun ownership is well over double for Republicans and they currently strongly support ICE and many other abusive domestic policies.

                Please point out an armed revolution that wasn’t just wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control. I can name only one and that was Haiti.

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                  The majority of Americans with guns do like what the government is doing though. Gun ownership is well over double for Republicans and they currently strongly support ICE and many other abusive domestic policies.

                  Uh… therefore?

                  Please point out an armed revolution that wasn’t just wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control.

                  I’m not sure how that’s relevant here. Most revolutions tend to be about wealthy people using humans as pawns in their struggle for control, but also: Yemen, Syria, Iran, Cuba, Russia, China, Mexico, Ireland*2, decolonization in general. There’s also two Frances (1830, 1848) but those are more iffy.

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                    2 hours ago

                    I was just restating what I said already for clarification since that is what we were discussing.

                    When people talk armed revolution the track record is pretty much shit for human rights. Mythological thinking that an armed rebellion is going to solve our problem is problematic to say the least.