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    This article is about a guy who was born into wealth that is using his money to help Palestine. Literally the second line in the article is:

    Chambers, an heir to the Cox Communications family fortune, has used his vast inheritance to fund pro-Palestine organizations for years.

    Can you explain what fascism, genocide and ethnic cleansings this guy has been involved in?

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      the only real purity fetish involved here are liberals who are taught that “true” leftists must be come from the capitalist downtrodden classes to be truly pure.

      if you spent more than average effort to peek beyond the propaganda that misinforms you, you would instantly see that nearly all of them started out as members of the ruling class that betrayed the ruling class in the same way that leftists start out as liberals and can now understand how deeply propagandized liberals are as a result.

      we were once like you, but managed to turn off the tv, facebook, reddit, etc. and started reading for ourselves.

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        You’re not that deep. I’ve known a lot about the realities of the world from a very young age due to circumstances. I bet I’m just as widely read as you too if not more so. I know how propagandized we are. Every single person on the planet is. I always knew this. It’s nothing new and never has been.

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          your awareness and your anecdotal experience doesn’t matter anywhere near as much as learning from the others who have come and tried before you for the last century and a half and looking at your exchanges with others here makes it clear that’s the piece of the puzzle you’re missing.

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              if you do the reading you will learn 2 things that automatically address your question.

              1. that it’s the opposite of magic – it’s a long and slow methodical process that will take generations because the epstein class sees socialism as an existential crisis to their existence, so they use their control and the ALL of the global north’s resources to obstruct socialism in every 👏 single 👏 possible 👏 way that they can.

              2. and that every 👏 single 👏 possible 👏 way includes the epstein class using their ownership over our media to convince the western world over several generations that socialism is ineffective.

              #1 is documented in those writings that you should read and also independently confirmed by several other governments across the world and #2 is documented by the american government in document releases like the freedom of information act; the panama papers; and the epstein files as well as analyzed heavily by people like chomsky and parenti.

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                Listen this is nothing new to me. I’m asking you, specifically, what you think we should do. I’ve read all the books, the files etc etc. I’m asking you.

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                  I’ve read all the books, the files etc etc.

                  you clearly haven’t

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                    I mean you aren’t making any case. You’re just throwing insults. It really doesn’t sound like you have a clue tbh. We also don’t have the luxury of following a “long and slow methodical process that will take generations”. That’s basically capitulation. We need actions we can take today. So again, I’m asking you, what actions do you think we should be taking?

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      Can you explain

      bill gates is a well known example of how they use philantropy to whitewash their shit. i would bet before even looking this organization up that it extracted far more than what they could possibly pay back in small funding for whatever cause.

      in fact they are making money on the genocide, billions of it even as their own country tanks.

      the other poster is correct, they can legitimately help (engels as the quintessential example), it’s just that most are trying to fool us.

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        I doubt the US government would be coming after him if he was a pedo Gates case. You need to understand that not every American is against you. You are ensuring the right win forever if you don’t build strategic bridges. You don’t need to agree on everything with your allies but you do need to learn to recognise allies.

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          the us government is going after shit.

          no way to build “strategic bridges” with billionaires who throws even it’s biggest allies and enemies alike under the bus and it’s people don’t care. that’d just be dumb of us.

          they are literally our biggest enemies.

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              i’d be naive if i thought billionaire ass-kissers were my allies at all. i’m not seeking your approval & it isn’t useful for us at all.

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                You’re not getting it. You have people who will help you achieve your goals and people who won’t. If you exclude the people who will despite differences then you are locking in failure. Your purity badge isn’t going to win you shit.

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                  sorry if not fucking with billionaires and imperialists is too pure for you.

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                    How do you plan to fight imperialism without resources? Maybe I’m missing something but it doesn’t sound like you’ve thought this through properly.