• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    EU states spend tons of money on healthcare

    the price is much higher taxation than US.

    Fun fact: the US spends more tax money on healthcare than almost every EU member state and STILL it’s so fucking expensive when it’s free at point of service in most of Europe.

    How is that possible, you might ask?

    By most of those tax dollars going to insurance and pharmaceutical company profits, marketing, and lobbying to prevent a better system.

    And now we have crazy ruskie try hard invading our neighbour and we’re paying tons of money to stop him.

    True, but guess what? The investment in that particular conflict already paid off so well that Russia is teetering on the brink of economic and military collapse, thus constituting a threat to anyone other than Ukraine and soon might not be even that.

    And since Trump withdrawn support for Ukraine we have to pay even more to compensate

    Nope. The war is as good as won already and the overwhelming success of the Ukrainian drone program means that they can pay for much more of it themselves now than in the beginning.

    Tl;dr: there’s no good reason to cut social services OR increase military spending in most EU member states

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      Fun fact: the US spends more tax money on healthcare than almost every EU member state

      I see what you did there. US has 5-10x the population than any single EU member state. What matters is spending per capita. Your argument is invalid.

      Nope. The war is as good as won already and the overwhelming success of the Ukrainian drone program means that they can pay for much more of it themselves now than in the beginning.

      It’s not. The frontline is a slaughterhouse with hundreds if not thousands of casualties every day, many of which are rotting on the battlefield as we speak.

      If EU was properly armed, this war would be actually over, with borders restored and invader removed from Ukrainian territory. And increased military spending is necessary to ensure this clusterfuck of a war won’t happen again in the future

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        I see what you did there. US has 5-10x the population than any single EU member state. What matters is spending per capita. Your argument is invalid.

        I WAS talking about per capita. Your ignorance is showing again.

        The rest of your comment is just fallacious warmongering propaganda so blatant I won’t even dignify it with a rebuttal.

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        If EU was properly armed, this war would be actually over, with borders restored and invader removed from Ukrainian territory

        What kind of argument is this?! Ukraine is not part of the EU.