• BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    You ever think that maybe the US wasn’t sad about that, and in fact wanted that proxy war?

    That alone is the argument for US involvement. If the goal is to damage Russia, the support should flow.

    demanding their complete submission to NATO.

    Maybe that’s a correct course of action against country ran by genocidal motherfucker? You seriously think you can live peacefully with Putler? Ukraine thought that too. Funny how that worked out for them

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      4 days ago

      Maybe that’s a correct course of action against country ran by genocidal motherfucker?

      What course of action - please be specific.

      And note these same governments you’re saying should be arming Europe are currently arming Israel as well, a nation which unlike Russia (which has a CoE vote against it) actually has a full genocide displayed and levied by the ICC.

      You seriously think you can live peacefully with Putler?

      Given that Russia is next to Europe, are you suggesting instead that we invade Russia and kill hundreds of millions of people? Or overthrow their government?

      No, of course not. Your plan is to fight Russia to the last Ukranian.

      Ukraine thought that too.

      You mean when the government was overthrown in 2014 to decide to join an anti-Russian alliance with a history of illegal invasions?

      I don’t like Russia, but to pretend that they’re just evil orcs is the stupidity usually reserved just for Americans. We need a peace that will enable Europe and Russia to work together, not to have us bleed for the benefit of the Americans.

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        4 days ago

        Given that Russia is next to Europe, are you suggesting instead that we invade Europe and kill hundreds of millions of people? Or overthrow their government?

        You’re sick.

        You mean when the government was overthrown in 2014 to decide to join an anti-Russian alliance with a history of illegal invasions?

        WTF are you even talking about? Democratic elections?

        I’m blocking you, this goes nowhere.

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          So, no actual plan, just “let’s keep stoking the war fires then act surprised when they catch”.

          Because you don’t think it’ll be you fighting, I’m willing to guess. Like most chickenhawks, you’re eager to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian - and no further.