vutuv
vutuv.de
vutuv is the open business network where professionals connect, share, and get found. Free to join.

cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/49832828

There are three potential reasons for members of this forum to have a look at https://vutuv.de/

You are tired or annoyed of LinkedIn.
You are searching for a job or a candidate.
You are technically curious and want to have a look at the inner workings of such a project. We use everything Phoenix Framework has to offer and connect to the Fediverse.

vutuv compared to LinkedIn is not closed gated and it is free for everybody. You can read every posting and visit any profile without having to register first. Have a look at my profile at https://vutuv.de/wintermeyer

All the data is hosted on our servers in Germany. Nothing is send to the cloud. No third party cookies.

Please give it a try and please do give me feedback. Here or if you find a bug or want to post a feature request in our GitHub repo. Thanks!

^quote from developer about vutuv https://elixirforum.com/t/vutuv-de-an-open-source-linkedin-alternative-built-in-phoenix/76166/

  • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
    393·
    14 hours ago

    I support the idea of a federated employment platform. However I see no reason for an employment platform to have social features.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
      13·
      13 hours ago

      I have only received jobs for the last 10 years via social features. I hate it, I don’t enjoy it, but networking and people skills are the way to a good network. I started blogging and recruiters started pinging me regularly. It has a place

      • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
        22·
        11 hours ago

        Thats great, you can network and have people skills on social media and link from there to your professional bio. There’s no reason for them to be in the same place.

        • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
          2·
          11 hours ago

          Except, I don’t want those people in my regular circles on my regular accounts, I keep work and personal separate. I’d prefer to have a separate account, just like this that’s linked to my professional life. This fills that need for me

          • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
            11·
            11 hours ago

            So create a separate account. There’s no reason it needs to be on a dedicated platform.

            • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
              3·
              10 hours ago

              So you want to separate things so they’re all in their own little spheres… so that there’s less dedicated services?

            • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
              2·
              11 hours ago

              Where would I put my CV and professional details, my skills and abilities? I don’t know man, I see some real value here, what’s the harm of it?

              • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
                1·
                10 hours ago

                Where would I put my CV and professional details, my skills and abilities?

                On a separate, professional site.

                what’s the harm of it?

                The harm is filling a professional website with a bunch of noisy nonsense no one cares about. I don’t need to see your federated OnlyFans profile when I’m looking for an employee.

                • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
                  1·
                  10 hours ago

                  Don’t subscribe to users from there then, and even then doesn’t sound like this would be federated?

                  On a separate, professional site.

                  That’s quite literally what this app appears to be trying to do.

                  • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
                    1·
                    10 hours ago

                    doesn’t sound like this would be federated?

                    Then why is “fediverse” in the title of the post?

                    That’s quite literally what this app appears to be trying to do.

                    Except it’s not, it’s trying to be another social media platform.

    • SorteKanin@feddit.dkEnglish
      152·
      14 hours ago

      I know we love to hate on LinkedIn, but honestly there are plenty of reasons to want social features about employers and jobs. Reviews, salary discussions, union organization and all such stuff that employees could leverage against employers, for instance.

      Of course that’s not what LinkedIn is largely used for because it’s full of employers trying to brand themselves or influencers trying to make an image for themselves. But it could be different, I think.

      • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
        51·
        13 hours ago

        sounds like linkedin x glassdoor, really. except people on glassdoor are assholes too.

        maybe it cancels out.

      • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
        22·
        12 hours ago

        Reviews, salary discussions, union organization and all such stuff that employees could leverage against employers, for instance.

        These are all things that could be designated to one or the other, as appropriate. There’s no reason they need to be in the same place and every reason not to.

        • SorteKanin@feddit.dkEnglish
          1·
          11 hours ago

          Not sure I understand - you think some of those things don’t belong on the fediverse? What do you mean “one or the other”?

          • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
            11·
            11 hours ago

            1 = social media

            “the other” = Professional business platform

            I think these things should be separate.

            • SorteKanin@feddit.dkEnglish
              11·
              10 hours ago

              I feel like that’s an unnecessarily narrow view of what the fediverse can be. The fediverse is not only for any single particular social networking use case, like micro-blogging (Mastodon) or forums (Lemmy, Pyfed etc). It can be much more than that, and all of it at the same time. There’s no reason why the fediverse should restrict itself to only certain social media use cases.

              • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
                1·
                10 hours ago

                The fediverse is already broken up across way too many usecases, such that I have to have a profile for videos, a profile for podcasts, a profile for my blog, a profile for communities, etc. etc. and they want to add another one.