Absolutely because it got roasted on April fools as the stupidest executive level idea in all of gaming.

https://youtu.be/DtfO9iCDrcM

Hey play this game I paid 60 bucks for for me

Sure, but that’s not my point. Social pressures aside, there is no way for instance a to control what instance (or server, or data collector) B does with it. Unless you audit every server federated, there is no way to know if anyone is doing anything with your data.

3 letter agencies can and may even already have servers that look like ordinary fediverse servers already just happily listening and storing everything. No amount of social pressure here is going to stop that. So all users need to understand this about the fediverse, that anyone can do whatever they want with your data whenever. For privacy, go to Matrix.

I think we’re seeing a lot of optimization right now. The most exciting one I’ve seen is TurboQuant. Short version, every message you send to a model has context, the entire conversation you’ve had, instructions, skills, everything. That takes up an exponential amount of ram, and this is what is causing the VRAM/RAM shortage. TurboQuant (and other copycats now) claims that it can reduce that VRAM usage of the context by 20x. That’s absolutely huge, that’s 1M context models running on consumer hardware potential huge.

Deepseek v4 also boasts some large claims, saying they have a model that does better than Anthropic’s or OpenAI, while being 1/10th the size. That also is a huge reduction in compute and VRAM, but I’ll be looking for the proof.

We’ve seen other items too, with upgrades in running models, how quickly results are streamed, to me TurboQuant is the most exciting.

I think it’s good that they’re finally looking at optimization. Yes, their cost has been power and compute. NVidia is more than happy to keep things inefficient because they sell GPUs that way. Software companies are doing the opposite now, reducing the compute overhead to start saving them money, which they desperately need to do if this is going to continue. New technology has always been horribly inefficient, it’s only once more people see it does it start to get optimized.

I think this is what is going to be required to finally push past the horribleness of AI companies, and they need to do this quickly.

If you use Google Maps (I know, I know), but if you have it on your phone already, there’s a sharing function that I use. It’s pretty easy, just select your photo, location sharing, then send it to them. I like it because you can timebox it to so long. So if I’m going out to drinks I can say for the rest of the night, then if my wife doesn’t hear from me she doesn’t have to worry or anything. Then it expires the next morning.

Strong doubt. None of the trailers have mentioned what this movie is actually about. Disney has been on an all out spree just saying “Look it’s mando, and grogu cute” and I’m not buying it. I don’t trust at all that this is going to be any good.

I’ll wait for it to be out for at least a few weeks in theaters.

Great. You show me an 10 foot fence I’ll show you an 11 foot ladder. Go ahead and audit every server that federates with you, send them a questionaire. There’s absolutely nothing stopping the next lemvotes from setting another server up, and there is nothing stopping any three letter agency from setting up their own listening server.

Of course, apologies if my comment came off as you independently are doing something crazy that we should all defederate. You absolutely are not in my book doing something outlandish.

My point only was that I don’t know why someone on piefed.social feels the need to post in lemmy.world about something that is what appears to me to be an internal instance choice.

Db0 to you directly, and for everyone reading, you have done more for the fediverse than the vast majority here and are up with the developers in my book. You have built tools for the fediverse that most will never see that keep onslaughts of abuse from hitting our servers. Personally, you have helped me with my own server helping me debug now almost three years ago. It will take much more than rimu’s personal issues with you to burn through the goodwill you’ve built up with me, and I assume the other admins.

Personally, while I am not a mod or an admin of this channel, I would argue that a personal vendetta is not relevant to the fediverse channel amd I hope these posts are both removed. I agree that they are thinly veiled attempts at trying to manipulate admins.

This is a good take, and I appreciate it.

The cold hard fact is that there are a lot of bad actors, even here on Lemmy. Most users are sheltered from it because of good mods and admins. It’s easy to shit on them, but these people sort through the absolute muck. There’s a reason we don’t have racists and gore and CP here, and it’s because they keep all of it at bay away from eyes here. I know this because I firsthand have seen some of the permanently scarring shit, and it was only a small fraction of what mods on world deal with.

Soi don’t blame moderated arching out tools that help them not see it.

However each admin and mod have to decide for themselves and their users what is best for them, and that is purely an admin level decision for their server. The fediverse is very cool that everyone can make their own rules, and I like that nuance.

You are correct, and it’s what I was suggesting op do if they don’t like what other admins do. It’s right there.

As for viewing votes there’s a whole site dedicated to showing everyone’s votes, it’s called Lemvotes. Feel free to say please, but people are still going to do it. Votes and everything elsewhere are very much public, best to get used to that now.

Words can have multiple meanings, and change meanings over time.

Absolutely it is. Grab a bucket and relax

@rimu@piefed.social is this the cause of your issue yesterday? We talked about this for hours. Just defederate.

@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com is an admin, he owns the server, he can do what he likes on that server.

As I said yesterday, and overwhelmingly everyone chimed in agreeing: This is the nature of the fediverse. You do not get to make rules for the entire fediverse.

You are on piefed.social, just block his server from your feed you dislike it so much.

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Ah so they’re patching copyfail I see.

The fun is literally joining in with the author.

I worked at “Big Box Orange Counter Retail” for many years. Us nerds, us who actively choose linux, know how to build computers, hell even know what a terminal is, are the vast minority. I installed drivers for people. I uninstalled malware. I upgraded ram. All normal. What’s also normal? Showing them how to log into their email. Showing them how to open an application. Showing them how to use a file browser. This is all mystical shit to them. Us at black tie computer repair in big box were made fun of by computer nerds because “har har just install linux”, “har har why pay them 130 dollars just do it yourself”. Bruh, the vast majority of people don’t know what a browser is.

It can feel like the opposite. Lemmy and Mastodon are heavily tech related, Reddit was too, and we build ourselves into echo chambers where we assume everyone has a specific level, but we are a teeny tiny fraction.

Linux was ~1% of the Steam survey for decades. That’s 1% of PC gamers, PC users who have Steam installed. It was a tiny fraction of a fraction. We’re now at 5%, which is great, but that’s still a tiny fraction of total users across all desktops. On top of that, a huge chunk is thanks to Valve for pre-installing a linux distro and going with that as the default. Us who installed Linux as a primary PC and game on it are a very tiny percentage.

Then, to add mobile operating systems into the mix, the percentage is even smaller. We are a part of a part of a percent on mobile. It’s why things like locking down Android doesn’t concern them. They know we’ll switch, they don’t care. We’re an edge case to them, a rounding error. What they can say is that 99.999% of people are now locked in.

I grew up in a small town that was full of this. You know why everyone thinks that revelations is coming true and it’s the end times? Selfishness.

Christians who believe that they’re living in the end times are narcissists, hands down. I was surrounded by them growing up. They will tell you it’s because the world is sinful and all the signs are matching but really their actual reasons for believing that it’s the “end times” is:

• They don’t need to feel guilty about using resources/polluting (God will “renew” the earth)
• They don’t need to worry about the next generation, because it’ll be over before then
• Someone else (Jesus or God or the Holy Spirit or all three in the mecha-jesus form) will save everyone for them
• They get to be raptured, leaving behind all the sinners, and thus proving that they really are better than everyone else.

It’s all pure selfishness and narcissism. I read the bible, and then I read the entire left behind series. All of them. It’s rapture porn for Christians. It’s 13 books of “Oh if only we were as smart as the Christians to accept Jesus earlier!” Of course it was, and that’s why it was marketed towards Christians, and not non-Christians. (Seriously, think about how fucked up that is that they had 13 books dedicated to that, marketed towards them, and how much they ate it up. But I digress)

Christians are more than happy to put their head in the sand. It’s why you see Christians not giving two damns about the planet or pollution, or the next generations. They don’t care. They’re going to be fine. They’ll be raptured. Everyone else? Well jokes on them because the Christians were right and everyone else deserves it.

and I haven’t even touched on the pure arrogance of assuming that of all of the generations and billions of people who came before that somehow you’re the one who experiences the return of your savior

by definition, that is adding walls and gates to the fediverse, which is why this whole thread started. The fediverse was specifically designed to oppose those features at all, specifically because of what we’re seeing now. Gates have keys and gatekeepers, and as we’ve seen in the greater world, those can change hands in the blink of an eye.

GOOD. NO ONE should be trusted here! I’m just some guy who decided to spin up a server, there should be zero trust! THIS IS MY POINT.

Don’t you think everyone deserves the information they need to choose which instances they want to interact with, according to whatever criteria is important to them? Even if your criteria are different?

This depends on the trustworthiness of the admin themselves, and even then every admin is just some person who decided to spin up a server, just like me. Trust is built and earned, it shouldn’t be implicit. The option you have is to defederate, or leave and join another server.

I’m really not trying to be an asshole here, but your post is what caused me to do this. This is not a unique post, this is a fundamental core principal of the fediverse that every user must understand. That by being here, it is not a private secure place, you are quite literally blasting every comment, post, and upvote, to whoever wants to listen. Literally everyone. Any semblance of privacy is purely a UI trait. Rules/guidance is purely 100% based on what each server owner chooses.

and it will continue to be. Again, you need to understand this. There are no rules, guidelines or anything that an instance owner needs to follow beyond whatever legal requirements they have in their specific jurisdiction.

So, I guess in your pervalence, you are correct, you do not have that freedom. Even I, as an instance owner, do not have that freedom, because everything I’m typing here is being sent out to as many servers are listening too. By being completely open so that anyone can spin up a server and listen for activity, it literally means that we are open and any server can listen for activity.

Anyone can spin up a server, create some LLM bot, and start replying to anyone they want. That instance can be defederated of course, but that is the only tool. This is what you signed up for, this is the open and free internet. We do not have any walls here.

That is quite literally my point. Everything, absolutely everything here is open and can be used however any instance owner wants. You can say “leave that shit alone”, but there is no obligation to whatsoever.

You should assume every instance owner can and is viewing all of your private data, sending it through whatever LLM/mod tools they want. Are they? Probably not. But they can, and there is no obligation not to.