cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/58022486

Interesting article from 2018. But nothing has changed at all. Even the electric cars I see on the road are huge.

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    8 hours ago

    countries like the UK, France, Italy and Germany there are now around 5 vehicles for every 10 people

    That’s a weird way to say 1 car for every 2 people.

  • Vegafjord - demcon@slrpnk.net
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    18 hours ago

    I say not less cars, but no cars. We need to move towards societies where we arent dependent on the asphalt industry.

    We need to learn how to live slow again.

    zero carz🦔

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      17 hours ago

      No cars is a bit too idealistic, but agree on ending the general dependency on them. Cars is not just speed, but also access. And car infractructure is the same as for buses, emergency vehicles, taxis etc. And I don’t think we should necessarily end those.

      But yeah, I still chant for “no cars” as the idealistic general goal.

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        14 hours ago

        but we dont need cars. just because we are dependent on them today, doesnt mean we are depent on them in the future. Dont let todays lets dictate our future lets.

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          7 hours ago

          So my moving company should use trains? I’m not sure if you’re just naive or something else. Of course we don’t “need” cars. The same way we don’t need Internet, or electricity.

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            7 hours ago

            I dont believe in trains. we dont need fast transport. and we dont need internet. electricity is useful, but our demands should not rely on industry.

            one of the greatest characteristics of humanity is our ability to adapt. we should play to this strength.

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    1 day ago

    Provide better public options. It takes me 25 minutes to get to work by car and 75 minutes by public. Fuck that.

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    Im curious what people here would take to work. A 20 minute drive or an hour bike ride. Buses don’t exist near me nor will they. What are my options. It’s too hot, the weather is unpredictable, and im not spending an hour one way to work.

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      5 hours ago

      i dont want people commuting to jobs everyday that are 10km away. i dont want that to be typical. just my thoughts on the matter

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      In all honesty, I would probably drive in your situation, though I might invest in a folding bike/e-bike I can toss in the trunk. It’s crazy how small those things are now! They had some Urtopias at the local bike shop last time I swung by, and I swear they fold up smaller than most adult scooters I’ve seen.

      Fwiw my commute is about 35 min by regular bike, 25 by e-bike, 15 by car if the traffic is light (that’s a big if), or around 45 by bus. E-bike is my preferred option.

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      17 hours ago

      If you say there will never be buses near you, I presume you don’t live in a city. If you did, I don’t see why the city creating a bus line there wouldn’t be possible.

      For folks commuting from outside the city to inside, the best is a big car park outside the city next to a commuter train station. Make it frequent and reliable.

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      2 hours ago

      “Genghis Khan, who established the world’s largest contiguous empire between the 13th and 14th centuries, has been branded the ‘greenest invader’ in history as his murderous invasion actually helped scrub about 700million tonnes of carbon from the atmosphere. According to a new research, the ruthless Mongol warrior killed so many people during his bloody invasions that huge swathes of cultivated land depopulated and returned to forest.”

      https://www.wwf.org.co/en/?199285/Genghis-Khan---the-greenest-invader-in-history

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      10 hours ago

      Yes. And this is easy to solve with decreased birth rates. People die naturally and populations reduce significantly on their own on fairly short periods of time