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  • grue@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlThis was from 2017.
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    2 days ago

    Do you not understand that there’s an absolute, fundamental difference between:

    “Harris needs to change her position on Gaza to win more support”

    vs.

    “Don’t vote for Harris; she supports genocide”

    ?

    The former is legitimate criticism of Democrats. The latter is pro-fascist, pro-even-more-genocide concern trolling.

    And before you try to say “but threatening to withhold our vote was our leverage”–NO. You DID NOT HAVE that leverage, not after the primaries were over and not with Trump as the only alternative! The stakes – the continuation of American democracy itself, on top of even more brutal destruction of Gaza – were too high for that threat to be credible, and everyone knew it. (In other words, anybody who would actually follow through on that threat was deliberately choosing more harm for Gaza and thus was never on their side to begin with.)


  • grue@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlThis was from 2017.
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    2 days ago

    29% - Ending Israel’s violence in Gaza

    That means 71% of non-Harris voters rejected her for reasons other than Gaza. Your citation doesn’t prove what you think it proves.

    The Democratic Party needs to be burned down I am afraid.

    I’m not even disagreeing with you! But permanently destroying your ability to ever replace it with anything better by plunging the US into fascist dictatorship was not the way to do it!







  • grue@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlThis was from 2017.
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    No, in terms of proximate causes, failure to perform harm reduction did that.

    If you wanted to actually fix the Democrats’ neoliberal bullshit, the time for that was in 2021-early 2024, not fucking October! Screeching about third-parties in October was purely pro-fascist concern trolling.


  • grue@lemmy.worldtoMemes@lemmy.mlThis was from 2017.
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    Okay, let me spell it out, yet again, since people still apparently don’t get it: making a tactical decision to avoid expressing criticism during an election is not the same thing as being perfectly happy with what the party is doing. It’s harm reduction, not agreement.