• Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
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    100% they have a class based system it’s just not talked about.

    They do have a bourgeoisie class and a peasent class.

    They have doctors, lawyers, construction workers, government employees, billionaires and unprecedented wealth within families.

    Then they have the peasant class the rice paddy farmers, the package sorters, the food delivery drivers, the minimum income workers living in cramped apartments and the unemployed.

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      100% they have a class based system it’s just not talked about.

      It’s literally on their flag though. Those stars aren’t just decoration, they stand for the peasants, workers, petite bourgeois and national bourgeois, unified and led by the big star: the communist party, and its allies.

      China is a people’s republic, which historically would mean that those various class strata would be represented in government, by various parties and mass organizations. Not just a single communist party (see, East Germany, Socialist Poland, or the early DPRK). As China has developed its productive forces, however, a decision was made to allow the Bourgeoisie to be an element within the communist party itself, so they couldn’t form their own separate base of political power. While that brings contradictions, they’re far more manageable than they would be otherwise.

      They’re pretty open about all of this.

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      Yes, that’s why it’s not communist. But it is socialist, because the working class controls the government and holds the reins of the economy.

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        The 200 million rural farmers control the country!

        No wait, the 400 million service workers control the country!

        No wait, it is the 500 million middle class that control the country!

        No wait, it is the 130,000 of the wealthy class that controls the country!

        No wait, it is the 320 billionaires that control the country!

        No wait, it is the 2,878 Congressional members that control the country!

        No wait, it is seven leaders who control the country!

        No wait, it is Xi who controls the country!

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        Yes, exactly like the working class in the US controls the government and holds the reins of the economy.

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          Except not. Tell me more about how ignorant you are about political economy theory and how China actually functions.

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            ohhhhhhhhhhh it’s evolved. I’m going off of an old system:

            Class structure and earnings

            In the last half century, China’s class structure has undergone a major transformation, evolving from a simple system of three socialist strata (cadres, workers, and peasants) in the pre-reform era to a hybrid class system mixing capitalist features with aspects of the previous socialist class system. The Chinese market-oriented reforms and the expansion of the private sector changed property relations and generated a class structure with striking similarities to that of other capitalist societies (Bian Citation2002). Previous research has adopted multiple approaches to understand the class dynamics and earnings in transitional China. Some research on urban China applies Goldthorpe’s neo-Weberian class theory to the Chinese context (Zou Citation2015) while others have adapted Wright’s neo-Marxist class framework to explain class-based earnings inequality (Li, Qin, and Chen Citation2012; Lin and Wu Citation2009). Lin and Wu (Citation2009) compared different class schema and concluded that a modified neo-Marxian class approach (albeit one that incorporated hukou) best captured the evolving class structure in transitional China. They also demonstrated that class has become the major source of earnings disparities among Chinese workers.

            Source: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21620555.2021.1878019#d1e358

            Hukou: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou

            Hukou is incorporated into almost every Chinese socioeconomic and political system