They changed the rules by stopping disk production to their market leading home console. The optical drive is often sold out because people actually want one on their console.
It is literal enshitification of their own product.
How is that changing the rules? This makes no sense. They are creating a new console, it wont have a drive. So what? Each gen (typically) forgets what came before it. This is nothing new.
They are changing the rules on the PS5 console. Sony announced that they will stop making optical disks even though customers still buy them and it is not losing them money.
One of the main benefits of a game console is the used games market. It allows people to borrow games and sell them because it belongs to them.
The fact that Sony had to announce it means that they are literally changing the rules. Especially since they are keeping very quiet about it.
What Rules? People keep saying that, but there are no rules.
Every console is different, few are backward compatible. This is just another change for a new model. You can argue you don’t like not having physical discs so don’t buy it. But there are no “rules”.
Edit: I have said this before, I am FAR more angry about Sony promising linux twice then taking it away on the same console through an update. Now THAT is breaking a promise. They could have dropped linux support next console, no big deal, but this was a bait and switch. Nobody seemed to learn a thing from that and kept buying their crap. Now they are whining about physical discs. Its sony, they suck, get over it and don’t buy their products. It is that easy.
doesn’t even have to be a digital storefront for PC. I was at a convention last year with a booth where a developer was selling their game on USB flash media, in custom made cases.
Not really. Not if you control the license. I can sell me keys at any price I want, and expect every store to honor that price or lose money doing any less. Or even make a contract that they cannot change the price. I can lock out people who don’t have the “sony version”. Lots of ways to make sure this never becomes cheaper.
Thats capitalism buddy.
In the end its a hardware problem. Sony controls the hardware, they can choose to run or not run anything they want. Like all consoles since forever. Better to move to open platforms, and then you can have competition.
Can you provide an example where the Sony key was cheaper than a PC key when both were on sale, because that has not been my experience. Discs? Sure, but not keys.
Also, I’m looking at PC prices because that is the example given of a disc-less ecosystem, but it isn’t actually a good comparison, because there is competition, which is what I was pointing out.
I saw a post where the person was saying this, but of course being international the money was in a currency I don’t track which did make me wonder if there are regional variants.
Looking now I see the steam and PSN sales about equal. They cited some cheaper games, but I don’t recall what.
I always assume that eventually steam will be much less, certainly Humble is.
Of course I would never buy a game that only worked on a single device. Physical or not, buying for Sony seems stupid.
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There’s nobody stopping anyone from releasing games on PC on optical media or any other format.
Sony had a monopoly on their PlayStation and are changing the rules that customers signed on for when they bought the hardware.
How did they change the rules? Every new console gets a new set of rules, its been that way forever.
So what they currently bought still has a disc player, the new one wont. Dont buy the new one if you don’t like it.
They changed the rules by stopping disk production to their market leading home console. The optical drive is often sold out because people actually want one on their console.
It is literal enshitification of their own product.
How is that changing the rules? This makes no sense. They are creating a new console, it wont have a drive. So what? Each gen (typically) forgets what came before it. This is nothing new.
They are changing the rules on the PS5 console. Sony announced that they will stop making optical disks even though customers still buy them and it is not losing them money.
One of the main benefits of a game console is the used games market. It allows people to borrow games and sell them because it belongs to them.
The fact that Sony had to announce it means that they are literally changing the rules. Especially since they are keeping very quiet about it.
What Rules? People keep saying that, but there are no rules.
Every console is different, few are backward compatible. This is just another change for a new model. You can argue you don’t like not having physical discs so don’t buy it. But there are no “rules”.
Edit: I have said this before, I am FAR more angry about Sony promising linux twice then taking it away on the same console through an update. Now THAT is breaking a promise. They could have dropped linux support next console, no big deal, but this was a bait and switch. Nobody seemed to learn a thing from that and kept buying their crap. Now they are whining about physical discs. Its sony, they suck, get over it and don’t buy their products. It is that easy.
“PC” has many storefronts I can buy digital product keys on. Which storefronts sell Sony keys, and can set their own prices?
doesn’t even have to be a digital storefront for PC. I was at a convention last year with a booth where a developer was selling their game on USB flash media, in custom made cases.
Why would the prices be any different even if they were on another store?
Uh… That’s the nature of capitalism, bud. A store would set their prices lower to entice customers to buy from them instead of someone else.
Not really. Not if you control the license. I can sell me keys at any price I want, and expect every store to honor that price or lose money doing any less. Or even make a contract that they cannot change the price. I can lock out people who don’t have the “sony version”. Lots of ways to make sure this never becomes cheaper.
Thats capitalism buddy.
In the end its a hardware problem. Sony controls the hardware, they can choose to run or not run anything they want. Like all consoles since forever. Better to move to open platforms, and then you can have competition.
Competition. Look at the PC market place, and how cheap keys go for. Also, prices aside, monopolies are just bad for customers.
Nope. Not really. Someone pointed out yesterday that sonys sales were actually cheaper than PC, but thats neither here nor there.
Sony can lock the licenses into what ever price they want. Or even not have them work on their devices. This isn’t as simple as you think it is.
And if you are looking at PC prices, why would you bother having a sony hardware in the first place?
Can you provide an example where the Sony key was cheaper than a PC key when both were on sale, because that has not been my experience. Discs? Sure, but not keys.
Also, I’m looking at PC prices because that is the example given of a disc-less ecosystem, but it isn’t actually a good comparison, because there is competition, which is what I was pointing out.
I saw a post where the person was saying this, but of course being international the money was in a currency I don’t track which did make me wonder if there are regional variants.
Looking now I see the steam and PSN sales about equal. They cited some cheaper games, but I don’t recall what.
I always assume that eventually steam will be much less, certainly Humble is.
Of course I would never buy a game that only worked on a single device. Physical or not, buying for Sony seems stupid.
No, it is. Regulate them instead of kowtowing.
Nah. I don’t care. Thats not kowtowing because Sony has been dead to me for years. Twice the Linux rug pull and I was done.
I don’t need government getting involved, just don’t buy it. Easy easy.