Pedofiles, those that think and do not act, deserve more compassion by society. They can’t help the way they feel. Acting on it is obviously extremely harmful but they can’t even talk about it, even to therapists, for fear of persecution. The current methods of suppression are harmful and akin to conversion therapy for lgbt folks. We need to allow them to have a voice and access to non harmful animated CP with all consenting adult voice actors or AI. In out current society they are akin to trans people in the 1950s
Germany has had a program for that for like 20 years, apparently it’s working pretty well. The therapy at least, the societal part is pretty much the same as everywhere.
brave take. i would add that the demonisation of such people forces them into the only community that will accept them: other paedophiles. then you get a bunch of paedophiles hanging out, with only 2 things in common: paedophilia, and a chip on their shoulder from being wronged by society. not a good combo if you wanna stop child abuse
I dunno if I necessarily agree with the AI aspect of it. Because I think that might just be a slippery slope.
But overall I think non acted upon pedophilia should be viewed more akin to intrusive thoughts where we also try to not condemn the person for the thoughts or fantasies they have.
My issue with genAI csam is two issues. One, what was that model trained on? Two, it would be fairly easy to hide real csam in a folder of generated csam.
If it’s drawn, it’s fine with the exception of when it’s based on a specific child.
Pedofiles, those that think and do not act, deserve more compassion by society. They can’t help the way they feel. Acting on it is obviously extremely harmful but they can’t even talk about it, even to therapists, for fear of persecution. The current methods of suppression are harmful and akin to conversion therapy for lgbt folks. We need to allow them to have a voice and access to non harmful animated CP with all consenting adult voice actors or AI. In out current society they are akin to trans people in the 1950s
Germany has had a program for that for like 20 years, apparently it’s working pretty well. The therapy at least, the societal part is pretty much the same as everywhere.
brave take. i would add that the demonisation of such people forces them into the only community that will accept them: other paedophiles. then you get a bunch of paedophiles hanging out, with only 2 things in common: paedophilia, and a chip on their shoulder from being wronged by society. not a good combo if you wanna stop child abuse
I dunno if I necessarily agree with the AI aspect of it. Because I think that might just be a slippery slope.
But overall I think non acted upon pedophilia should be viewed more akin to intrusive thoughts where we also try to not condemn the person for the thoughts or fantasies they have.
My issue with genAI csam is two issues. One, what was that model trained on? Two, it would be fairly easy to hide real csam in a folder of generated csam.
If it’s drawn, it’s fine with the exception of when it’s based on a specific child.
i wonder how much of them dont act out, but still consume csam, skewing the “committing SA on children” statistics.
I don’t think there is a reliable statistics for that. I was watching a psychologist specialized on sex offenders and he said it just doesn’t work.