Except that Ai, and support for Ai, has the end goal of stealing from and attacking artists. No artist worth paying any attention to should or would support Ai through its use. The only time I would ever consider it art is in using it to shit on itself, as a specifically anti-Ai piece, but that’s not really the same thing. Kinda like the guy on Instagram who shows it being completely unable to understand or follow basic instructions.
No excuses for Ai. I don’t like to take the absolute stance on too many things but in its current form, with its current goals, “Ai” is poison that shouldn’t be anywhere near anything, espcially not art. Fuck that garbage.
I’m not sure I would agree with your first statement. People want to rip off artists and treat them like shit. AI tools are just a current tool for doing so.
Anything that exists right now or in the foreseeable future isn’t sentient. It has no goal.
May as well say that the goal of audio streaming is to rip off musicians.
Audio streaming doesn’t have a goal. Spotify has a goal that shafts most musicians.
Openai and anthropic have goals. The AI is a pile of numbers hooked to a function that some people figured out that’s good at fixing errors.
Can a videogame be art? It’s almost entirely the product of a vastly complicated machine that’s responsible for synthesizing novel images, sounds and experience from a limited set of curated inputs. Sometimes they not even curated, as is the case with procedural animation, most clouds, and a lot of the lighting and texturing: parameters were defined to ensure the desired effect, but they were created by algorithmic randomness.
I think rigid rules, and a rejection of the possibility to explore expression is far more antithetical to art than any tool ever could be.
I don’t think most AI output is art because I don’t think many, if any, people are trying to create it.
If you’re one of those “separate art from artist people” this entire conversation is done, man. Ai is a malicious tool right now, and supporting it is a bad fucking idea. Well-planned algorithmic randomness and Ai are not the same things.
There is a fundamental ethics issue here(several, even) and I just cannot spend my time teaching you how to be a good person.
Except that Ai, and support for Ai, has the end goal of stealing from and attacking artists. No artist worth paying any attention to should or would support Ai through its use. The only time I would ever consider it art is in using it to shit on itself, as a specifically anti-Ai piece, but that’s not really the same thing. Kinda like the guy on Instagram who shows it being completely unable to understand or follow basic instructions.
No excuses for Ai. I don’t like to take the absolute stance on too many things but in its current form, with its current goals, “Ai” is poison that shouldn’t be anywhere near anything, espcially not art. Fuck that garbage.
I’m not sure I would agree with your first statement.
People want to rip off artists and treat them like shit. AI tools are just a current tool for doing so.
Anything that exists right now or in the foreseeable future isn’t sentient. It has no goal.
May as well say that the goal of audio streaming is to rip off musicians.
Audio streaming doesn’t have a goal. Spotify has a goal that shafts most musicians.
Openai and anthropic have goals. The AI is a pile of numbers hooked to a function that some people figured out that’s good at fixing errors.
Can a videogame be art? It’s almost entirely the product of a vastly complicated machine that’s responsible for synthesizing novel images, sounds and experience from a limited set of curated inputs. Sometimes they not even curated, as is the case with procedural animation, most clouds, and a lot of the lighting and texturing: parameters were defined to ensure the desired effect, but they were created by algorithmic randomness.
I think rigid rules, and a rejection of the possibility to explore expression is far more antithetical to art than any tool ever could be.
I don’t think most AI output is art because I don’t think many, if any, people are trying to create it.
If you’re one of those “separate art from artist people” this entire conversation is done, man. Ai is a malicious tool right now, and supporting it is a bad fucking idea. Well-planned algorithmic randomness and Ai are not the same things.
There is a fundamental ethics issue here(several, even) and I just cannot spend my time teaching you how to be a good person.