• jumping redditor [they/them]@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    the median without listing the standard deviation is almost as bad as the mean (for some datasets) I strongly suspect there are very few people between $100,000 and $200,000 because getting a home is that important to staying afloat and the stark racial difference is because one group has more than 50% homeownership and the other a fair bit less.

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      3 days ago

      Standard deviation is meaningless for data sets, like wealth distribution, that are not normally distributed.

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        2 days ago

        Wouldn’t it still tell you how concentrated the data are around the mean? Just not as reliably as for a gaussian distribution.

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          Things like wealth and income (and alcohol consumption) don’t even have useful mean. They’re monotonically decreasing distributions with most people scoring near 0 and a few people scoring extremely high. It’s more like an exponential distribution than a gaussian.

          In the US, mean household wealth is something like 3-4x the median, and if you plug the numbers into the standard deviation formula, you’ll get something close to the mean. Even greater. Maybe that informs a very sophisticated statistician audience, but if you tell the general public ‘standard deviation,’ they think “63% of people are within that of the mean,” and that is only true of Gaussian. For exponential distribution, mean±SD gets approximately all the samples.

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        2 days ago

        The fuck are you talking about? It’s still a perfectly useful statistic.

    • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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      3 days ago

      the median without listing the standard deviation is almost as bad as the mean (for some datasets) I strongly suspect there are very few people between $100,000 and $200,000

      So, you’re saying a standard deviation is useless too? If there’s not a normal distribution, then a standard deviation is probably more pointless than a median