I joined lemmy after severe frustration with other platforms. It feels like genuine online human forums that are devoid of bots simply do not exist anymore. It also feels like people are more ok with understanding less and less about the world around them, so long as they have an echo chamber in their phone that aligns with their worldview. Is lemmy actually a better environment? You’d think that if you care enough to end up here that you also care enough to notice the world around us dramatically changing. I’m not looking for an answer or an action, just an acknowledgment that the world feels to be on a downward spiral.

  • Schwim Dandy@piefed.zipEnglish
    3·
    2 days ago

    Is lemmy actually a better environment?

    Well, it’s populated by humans, so you’re going to find roughly the same behaviors. The main difference is the alignment of the echo chambers.

    The admins and moderators of the platforms do try to nip unlabeled bots and bad actors in the bud and the majority of the userbase helps with that by reporting posts or comments that break the rules and your presence here is not being exploited for any reason, much less for profit but only you will be able to decide whether it’s a place you want to hang out.

    • datmarrow@lemmy.zipOP
      31·
      2 days ago

      W response very helpful

      Thanks. I guess maybe echo chamber isn’t the right word because a group spewing the same rhetoric whether true/false is an echo chamber. It may be more accurate to say that im interested in a space that promotes better dialogue and isn’t filled with slop that muddies the conversation.

      • Schwim Dandy@piefed.zipEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        The majority of the platform does foster more honest dialog but to be clear, there are 0-value communities on the platform as well. You can block the communities, people and instances you don’t care for and the filter system works great so a large part of what you see is completely dictated by you. The fediverse is still small enough that you can create a filter list and browse all/new without seeing anything you don’t want to see.

      • BurgerBaron@quokk.auEnglish
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        2 days ago

        Most drama you’ll see on Fediverse will involve leadership, moderators, and power-users within the following groups who don’t like each other:

        Anarchist faction: db0, quokk, nexus, etc

        Tankie faction: .ml, Leningrad, hexbear, etc

        Liberal faction: status quo enforcers .world, the biggest instance unfortunately. Feddit, etc.

        Powertripping/insane mods and admins. A modicum of online power goes to people’s heads here same as anywhere. Stick around long enough you’ll pick up on the repeat offenders via osmosis even if you don’t actively dig up dirt.

        Manipulative narrative control obsessed web and app developers. Lemmy and Piefed both have awful people as lead developers. Then there was Tesserect which… recent drama. I’m not getting into it unasked.

        Good news is you picked a good home instance with .zip as far as I know.

          • BurgerBaron@quokk.auEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            I know, I had hoped the first sentence covered that but yeah to be clear it’s not like everyone on a specific instance is hive-minded with the instance admins.