• ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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      It’s worth noting that the USSR ended the Gulag system in the 1960s while capitalist countries like the united states continue to use prison as a means for cheap (practically unpaid) forced labor. Soviet prisoners were also paid comparable wages to free workers not only out of principle but so they would not be severely disadvantaged once out of prison.

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      Work camps

      You mean prison. Work camp is nonsense used to demonise non western countries as barbaric (and often used in an attempt to evoke images of the nazi extermination machine even when they are not at all the same). Also what was progressive in the 40s 50s and 60s would be regressive by today’s standard yet that doesn’t mean it wasn’t progressive for the time.

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          Almost like progressive for it’s time doesn’t mean progressivenand perfect for eternity ?!?!?! Please read what people are saying before responding.

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            And progressive for it’s time doesn’t mean the only progressive or the only one doing any progress. Please adjust the lens to the center for more accurate viewing.

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                The entire thread arguing that the USSR was progressive and the west was not? Sorry can you read?

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                  The USSR was more progressive than the west at the time, that doesn’t mean the west wasn’t progressive at all or the the USSR was the only one? Are you sure you can read?

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                    That is literally what is being argued. A constant push to express one is more progressive and the other isn’t. If you read my initial comment I make it very clear a lot of it is a global shift and some of that shift did not stick in certain places because of certain actions the government engaged in, suppressing progressive movements being a major one.

                    Can you read?

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      Soviet prisons were generally more progressive than western prisons, especially considering western countries were largely colonial powers (and are now neocolonial powers). Soviets even viewed handcuffs as barbaric and paid prisoners wages comparable to outside wages, the compulsion for work was out of a belief that work itself is good. They didn’t treat prison labor the same way the US does today, for pennies a day.