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  • razzazzika@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    Germany. I might be able to claim ancestry rights. Ironic that my great grandmother fled fascism in Germany but I’d flee America to return to the motherland.

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      8 hours ago

      You shouldn’t say that “motherland” phrase so loud. Nobody cares, but it makes you one of those Muricans we try to avoid.

      Nobody here cares about ancestry like americans do.

      Your great grandma came from Germany. Was your grandma a german citizen? Was your mother a german citizen? No? You are not intitled to german citizenship anymore. You’re a full blown american with a great grandma that migrated to the USA. I’m sorry to blow your bubble, that ship has left the harbor.

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        7 hours ago

        Ok sure. Sorry I didn’t know ‘motherland’ was a negative phrase in Germany. I will not use it. My grandmother and mother were not German just great grandmother.

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          6 hours ago

          Yeah… those fucking moronic assholes that forced your great grandmother to flee to survive loved expressions like Lebensraum, Rasserein, Bluterbe, Mutterland, Vaterland or Unwertes Leben…

          And we germans laugh about that Murican obsession with “I’m German, because my great grandmother was…” you can get german citizenship ius sanguinis (by blood … [as direct desendent])" and since 2000 also by ius soli (by place of birth). There’s a joke about “Russlanddeutsche” (Russian germans) that goes like: Ivan now has german passport, he could give proof his great great great great grandfather had a german shepherd back in 1792.

          Those people “coming back” are the decendents of people migrating to russia back in 1764 on their own free will.

          So, my personal tip. Just say you want to leave the US because that country is heading for a fall. I can speak a bit german because my great grandma was from [insert city/village/state here]. I hope this will help me learn to speak fluently fast.

          And you’re welcome.

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            6 hours ago

            Thanks for the constructive feedback instead of just assuming I was a bad person. I appreciate it.

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              6 hours ago

              My pleasure.

              You and grew up in completely different cultures, even if both are considered “western”. We both are a product of how we grew up.

              If someone would accuse me, as a german, of stareing, I’d be baffled, because for us it is normal not to look away after a split second. We also like to say things directly and don’t like waste time with small talk and chit chat in some situations. Many think this makes us cold.

              And… you obviously know about the darkest parts of german history. I was born 24 years after the third Reich was defeated and 80 years later this time still haunts this country. That’s why we sometimes react a bit “twitchy” if people use expressions that either were used by the fascists or sound like they would have liked them. I hope you understand my first reaction even better now.

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                5 hours ago

                Yes I know how sensitive a subject it is.

                Also, I too do not like small talk or mindless chit chat. If I talk, it is is in depth and with a passion about the topic.

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      20 hours ago

      That’s not how it works hun. You’d have to go through the regular process of becoming a citizen by immigration.

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          19 hours ago

          Yeah, it’s just one of the avenues. I could also just get a job there as I’m in tech, I’m not quite fluent in German yet especially when it comes to tech jargon. But I’m getting there.

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                13 hours ago

                Cognates? Mate, unless you work for some company stuck in the 60s the entire tech jargon is english, it’s the exact same words.