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OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 16 hours ago

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OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 16 hours ago
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  • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    i think most of the industry uses synthetic remnet.

    • Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 hours ago

      I think many French protected cheeses are not allowed to, but I’m not sure about that

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      12 hours ago

      As a person who check all cheese in the supermarket for this. The current state (EU/NL) is almost 60%, 60% of the cheese in our supermarket is without murdering baby cows. Which I up from last year, and it has been trending up for a while.

      I have no clue how other countries are doing, my guess us worse. Some france people still label ‘Fish’ as ‘Vegan’

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        That number moves much closer to 0% if you start counting the baby cows killed in order to keep their mothers perpetually lactating, rather than just those whose bodies were used as a direct ingredient.

        A cow will be impregnated 6-8 times during her life on a typical dairy farm, before she is killed af half her natural lifespan to be replaced by a younger cow. One of those baby cows will be raised as that replacement cow, the rest will be killed shortly after birth.

        Killing baby cows is an inherent part of cow-milk production.

        • hans@feddit.org
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          most dairy calves are brought to full weight before slaughter.

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            8 hours ago

            a man who has never eaten veal.

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              hardly any dairy calves end up as veal.

              the math

              https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/DataFiles/48685/milkcowsandprod.xlsx?v=1413.4

              https://catalog.data.gov/dataset/livestock-meat-domestic-data/resource/257788c4-e153-4712-abf3-f2f339bbefec

              thousands_of_head_of_cows = 9448.0
              actual_cows = 1000 * thousands_of_head_of_cows
              annual_male_calves = .5 * actual_cows
              veal_weight_of_calves_in_pounds = 260
              annual_veal_production_in_millions_of_pounds = 58
              annual_percentage_of_bobby_calves_that_become_veal = ((annual_veal_production_in_millions_of_pounds * 1000000) /  (veal_weight_of_calves_in_pounds * annual_male_calves))*100
              print(annual_percentage_of_bobby_calves_that_become_veal)
              

              4.722204129486094

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          9 hours ago

          a dairy cows life span is like 5 years

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            5 hours ago

            ours were closer to twelve but go off the documentary you watched once

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              5 hours ago

              https://albertamilk.com/ask-dairy-farmer/how-long-does-the-average-dairy-cow-live/

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                4 hours ago

                you are correct all of our cattle were born seven years old

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                  it’s possible your operation was not average, and most dairy cows only live 5 years.

                  anecdotes are not data.

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                    that’s what y’all scream any time you hear anything that contradicts you. have you considered that you might be wrong?

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            A cows natural life span is 20ish years. They’re kept perpetually pregnant for years until their bodies give out, then they’re slaughtered at around 5 years old.

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              cows don’t naturally live to 20 years. they can live that long if they are well fed and watered and protected from disease, predators, and the environment. that’s an artificial life span.

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      That would be huge news if true but it doesn’t sound like you have a source

      • 🍉 DrRedOctopus 🐙🍉@lemmy.world
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        I’m not bringing any moral value, just the note that synthetic remnet is cheaper then real one, another commenter said that about 60% of cheeses use it,i thought it would be much more.

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