With China’s popularity rising, there has to come a point where a country’s population decides to say:
“We need to follow a Marxist-Leninist model pronto if we want to remain a functioning society, because capitalism isn’t working anymore.”
Which country is gonna say it first?
My guess goes to..
Pakistan
china was already mentioned
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It’s certainly a take anybody with even minimal understanding of what Marxism is would agree with.
calling china capitalist is another.
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no it would not. it sounds to me you don’t know what marxist principles are.
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communism is the abolition of the state. socialism is the transition to a stateless society by using the bourgeois state against them and for the people.
marx himself (and later deng xiaoping, since the subject is the chinese state) believed capitalism and markets were necessary to develop productive forces before communism could happen.
please read marx before throwing names at people. this is the basics of marxism.
But when will the communism finally happen? I guess the people in power often fall into a conservative trap to keep the status quo because it’s working.
After class struggle is done?
by lenin’s logic, when the global capitalist hegemony is finally defeated. communism can’t happen while capitalists would do everything to destroy it. it has to be an everyone wants it kind of thing.
this is also why you don’t see country-sized anarchist societies and why we need socialism first.
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yes they are. are you expecting the poorest country in the world to develop itself and solve all contradictions in a couple of decades?
i know real life socialism set literal records for developing quick but things still take time. rebuilding a country is not trivial.
please read the philosopher you are telling me you already like, and study more about the method he created.
I don’t think westerners would want to live in a country like China. If that’s the case, why don’t people just immigrate there?
But people are immigrating over there.
But due to the Soviet Union collapse event, there’s still huge skepticism on how well China is performing and how badly the US is performing right now, despite the fact that China is already ahead, widening the gap at an accelerating pace and with no end in sight.
We’re going to see a turnaround of events in speed, size and scale like we’ve never seen before.
Comparing the economies of China and USA is not the same thing as comparing the quality of life for Chinese and US citizens. You are somewhat correct when you people are immigrating to China, the overwhelming majority going to China are expats. China makes it incredibly difficult to become a permanent resident.
I would say the attractiveness of living in a socialist or even communist country is based on a lack of understanding of what that actually means.
Because uprooting your life and moving to a different country is really hard to do as anybody with even a minimally functioning brain would understand?
“if your country is so bad why don’t you move” sorta vibes
but to answer your question, westerners have no idea what china actually is.
We completely agree on that. Westerners cannot conceptualize what China is really like.