• Hathaway@lemmy.zip
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    22 hours ago

    Magic is the technology we use to change our minds and perceptions with our thoughts. For example, the placebo effect.

    Crazy take. The placebo effect isn’t magic. Science doesn’t understand it, it doesn’t make it magic.

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        19 hours ago

        News to me! I didn’t think we knew why it has any real effect on the body. I guess I’ll do some looking.

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          18 hours ago

          Put in simple terms:

          Our experience of reality is not the same thing as reality itself, it is our brain’s interpretation of internal and external stimuli based on our prior experiences of those stimuli. In addition, our brains really hate when our perception doesn’t line up with our expectations, which causes the feeling known as cognitive dissonance.

          So, our brain expects a certain outcome and begins to produce the chemical responses (the internal stimuli) to have its perception of reality match its expectation of the external stimuli to avoid cognitive dissonance.

          This is an incredibly oversimplified parsing of what’s happening but it’s the gist of it.

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        Yeah! Magic is plenty easy to scientifically study. It’s just a category of technology that’s made out of ideas instead of physical things. You’ve got your mechanical engineers, your electrical engineers, and your magical engineers. Nothing special about it, except how our current culture mystifies it so much.

        I blame Christianity for trying to stunt progress on magical science. You know, they failed to keep Galileo from overturning their belief system, but they succeeded in putting down any mages not sanctioned by them. You know they try to monopolise magic so you have to go to them for magical assistance. It’s fucked up.

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          I’m not on your side about the magic nonsense. I agree with the other user, I just disagree that science doesn’t understand the placebo effect.

          Still not magic. Magic is bullshit