• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Because “is already over” means he’s not good enough for the left. So they’ll stay home and stomp their feet like they did in November. And he’ll lose.

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      2 days ago

      I guess if that’s what you want to read into what I said. There’s just no reason to think he’s gonna be any better than a bog standard Democrat anymore, is all.

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            2 days ago

            even if all the leftists vote for

            That’s my point, and also the mistake. I’m a first past the post system, you don’t vote FOR anything. You vote AGAINST the worst candidate. Not voting is the same as voting for the worst because it moves the goal posts closer.

            So until people understand that, there’s no help in highlighting flaws in Democrat candidates. It only scares off the people who don’t understand FPTP.

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              That’s my point, and also the mistake. I’m a first past the post system, you don’t vote FOR anything. You vote AGAINST the worst candidate.

              This message brought to you by the second worst party. By as thin a margin as they think they can get away with.

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                So you’re saying both parties suck, and also agree with the fact that our current voting system holds us hostage?

                I’m 100% with you. And until we get ranked choice voting, we hold our nose and vote Democrat to reduce how big of a shaft is rammed into our minority friends and family.

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                  As they sprint to the right and throw our minority friends and family under the bus for the glorious privilege of gaining zero republican votes. And then they blame the left for the results of their complicity with fascists.

                  But I can’t dare gripe about it, ostensibly because it HeLpS tHe RePuBliCanS, but in all cases it’s really because centrists don’t want any criticism as they move so far to the right that they’re supporting genocide.

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                Its actually borne out by the statistics. Generally few people get what they want in FPTP but the public can often avoid what it doesnt want as long as there’s not a 3rd party. The major problem is donors pick the party candidates in both parties unless more people start voting in primaries.

                If you watched the dem primary in NY you saw the difference in tone for a ranked choice election. Politicians can win in platforms there because RCV can actually deliver popular candidates.

                I do think it works better if people retaliate against senators and house reps for specific votes rather than party vibes. You want the politicians afraid to vote against the public not riding poll numbers on seats.

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                  Have fun voting for second worst every time as they keep chasing fascists to the right, then.

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                    1 day ago

                    Actually I just sit around jacking off about how equally terrible all the candidates are while I poo poo in my diaper.

                    Really though, do you not understand what primaries are for?