• Lussy [he/him, des/pair]@hexbear.net
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          Nah, US did the same thing with Iraq and Afhanistan. Declared they won, and spent an extra 200 billion a day to keep losing. ‘I’m not owned I’m not owned’ is this country’s middle name

          • TUMBLE_BUS [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            I think the distinction is Iraq and Afghanistan turned into boring occupations that were easy to ignore. This Iran war is just US L after L. We can’t even ineffectively occupy them.

            • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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              i think the other distinction is that the decades of boring occupation of afpak and iraq didn’t fuck with the treat machine and were able to be regarded as conceptual by most americans: a hobby for infotainment consumers to track and join teams. the US hasn’t faced a true, long term and biting breach of this magnitude since the 70s which was before even my ancient ass’ time.

              there was a lot more meat on the bone for the neoliberals to cannibalize back then with those shocks, frankly putting us into uncharted territory. especially since I don’t even see how the western powers could draw down if they had the will, the competence, or even the control over the necessary institutions.

              this shit is an electrical fire in a chemical plant and the entire fire department is two towns over, fighting each other about who gets to hump a doorknob with their radios off.

      • TUMBLE_BUS [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Yeah that’s the only answer I can come up with, Israel does actually have some weird leverage over him (or the American elite in general) so he can’t pull out.

    • SevenSkalls [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      If think he was pretty close to doing that before, but then all the bullet points in the agreement were released and instead of calling him a master negotiator Fox News and all the rest of their sources spelled out how much this meant a US L. It seemed to give him cold feet and he backed out.

      They should’ve played ball. Now no one gets gas.

    • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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      He should do one better - pull out and pretend the war never even happened. There were never any strikes, that’s fake news!

      His base would be with him 100%