• LostWanderer@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    62
    ·
    3 days ago

    If we had a sane and functioning government, these dumbass companies like OpenAI and Anthropic would be shut the fuck down. I am so tired of this bullshit, it needs to stop. This smells of a fear based marketing tactic…

    • willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      1 day ago

      If we had a sane and functioning government there would be no billionaires, no Elon stealing elections, no Citizen’s United, no nationalized online gambling, etc. There would also be no wars that were not authorized by Congress. No concentration camps. No privacy violation. No spam in your virtual or physical mail box. No spam calls or texts, no ugly billboards or intrusive ads anywhere. There would be clean water, universal medicine, housing, UBI, etc. It would look nothing like the sad doomscape we have right now. I am just scratching the surface.

      • LostWanderer@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 day ago

        Yeah, I was just sticking to the specific topic of this post…But honestly those would be other side effects from a strong, functional government that would benefit everyone! We the people need to fight for this stuff.

      • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        6 hours ago

        no nationalized online gambling

        This one sticks out. Consider a case where the amount and type of gambling operated was an election detail, as was the amount and manner of addiction response.

        Pick which of those two you would move to commercially-managed operations, beholden to shareholders first, and voters second, without making it look like the kind of abstinence or prohibition law that feeds gangsters and crime more than the non-profits currently fed by nationalized gambling.

        Public-run operations whose management is entrusted to trustworthy officials keeps control in the hands of the people. If your issue is with untrustworthy managers, that smells like a different problem with solutions that we seem to ignore a little too often.

    • deHaga@feddit.uk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      3 days ago

      They want the govt to slow it down so they can show smaller losses when they launch on the stock market

      • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        19
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        3 days ago

        Yeah. It’s a ham handed attempt to gently deflate the bubble instead of letting it pop at some random point in the future. Which, on the one hand, fuck those guys, but on the other hand, at this point, gentle bubble deflation is probably the best possible outcome for everyone.

        Also the “it will kill us all” kinda sounds like a drunk at a bar claiming that their hands are registered as lethal weapons. Are nuclear weapons systems somehow internet accessible? Are labs gonna let AI systems control biological research, drone building or nanobot production without human oversite? I guess it could happen but only after some monumentally irresponsible lapses by the people entrusted to safeguard critical systems. Shit. Are we totally fucked?

        • LostWanderer@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          2 days ago

          There is a merit to not causing economic collapse, but, honestly being smarter about marketing would’ve solved the issues they are facing. Instead of the stupid thing they are currently doing. Solidifying the absolute distrust and disdain in a product that was overpromised, overhyped…By very irresponsible people, who fucked so much trust, broke a lot of systems. Just to create what amounts to trash (a surveillance capitalism economy).

          I think we have always been a bit fucked, given the recent rash of breaches and countless consumer data leaks…It’s all coming apart gradually because all of these companies have faced ZERO accountability.

        • Rhaedas@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          3 days ago

          It’s not the AI that is the problem. I do mistrust it (and you can lack trust in a system that isn’t intelligence, misalignment happens in more than AGI). But it’s the humans making stupid decisions for money and glory vs. considering the risks. The humans will make mistakes that will cause things to get out of control, we aren’t at a level where the AI is intelligent and out thinking its creators. We just have dumb creators, which is funny because to do that work requires being smart. Maybe just not enough street smart, certainly not in the ones making the decisions.

          • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            edit-2
            3 days ago

            We just have dumb creators, which is funny because to do that work requires being smart. Maybe just not enough street smart, certainly not in the ones making the decisions.

            The rank and file workers put all of their INT points into math, computing and problem solving. Most of the folks doing that work had very little time to take the philosophy literature and history courses that would give them context and framework to look beyond their immediate metrics and goals.

            The decision makers are kinda victims of their own success. When you’re that high up and have that much power over most of the people in your day to day life, it’s hard to get honest feedback or pushback and it’s easy to disregard what little you actually receive. They believed their own hype and have allowed themselves to be dumbed down by yes men. And really, you can’t get to that level without an incredible string of luck. Hard work and smarts only go so far, you alao need to win an improbable string of dice rolls. I suspect that the human brain has a hard time keeping that kind of outsized luck and reward situation in perspective.