You are portraying Russia, a global superpower, as the unilateral victim. I am saying there is more nuance, especially concerning superpowers. I don’t support usurpation or invasion by anyone. You can’t suppose that ideologically and economically opposed nations won’t both editorialize (which seems here to be your concern, editorializing). Yet here we are.
You can’t suppose that ideologically and economically opposed nations won’t both editorialize (which seems here to be your concern, editorializing).
No, I am concerned about Ukraine that is fighting an unwinnable war for the US(/UK/EU) that set them up with unrealistic goals and demands, while their enemy had modest demands that are now being eroded as Ukraine has decided that these modest demands should be met with a fight to the death fueled by the outdated view of the world that you can’t go wrong when you have the military and financial backing of the US.
And Ukraine is now fighting until there’s nothing left, because while if it was a regional conflict,
this nation would have crumbled and surrendered, it is now sacrificing every life it has
as a constant stream of financial support from the EU, UK and US allows Zelensky to theoretically
go for a zero sum war until there’s no Ukrainian citizen left.
You are portraying Russia, a global superpower, as the unilateral victim. I am saying there is more nuance, especially concerning superpowers.
Russia is a regional superpower.
The current power behind Russia, China is the global superpower.
Russia meanwhile is not a victim because it’s winning and they came to the rescue of the Russian Ukrainians who had been suppressed since the coup of 2014.
The victims are the Russian Ukrainians and Ukrainian conscripts as both groups have been duped
into voting for a conman that is unfit to be president and lets his decisions be made by foreign powers
who have no stake in Ukraine and use Ukrainians as cannon fodder as the foreign themselves also have the outdated
view of the world that you can’t go wrong when you have the military and financial backing of the US.
This entire war is currently the biggest example of the failure of liberal democracy.
The Soviet Union did not do anything remotely like this when it started losing power,
dissolved peacefully with geopolitical issues far more difficult to solve than the issues
the US is currently experiencing and yet the US is dropping the ball because it’s a liberal democracy
and a bad one at that.
Ukraine has a card-carrying puppet president elected for the polar opposite for what he was elected for,
all the EU nations have shown themselves to be puppet leaders of the US,
and thrown their economies, which is about 25+ countries, into financial ruin to support this war,
which should have remained a regional conflict of a border and alliance dispute,
and it’s even hurting the US financially as well,
because it is currently China, not the US,
where can’t go wrong when you have the military and financial backing of.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
Considering that I made a comment pointing out the futility of trying to make good-faith arguments within this environment and a mod removed it, I think this is a relevant quotation. Thanks!
You are portraying Russia, a global superpower, as the unilateral victim. I am saying there is more nuance, especially concerning superpowers. I don’t support usurpation or invasion by anyone. You can’t suppose that ideologically and economically opposed nations won’t both editorialize (which seems here to be your concern, editorializing). Yet here we are.
No, I am concerned about Ukraine that is fighting an unwinnable war for the US(/UK/EU) that set them up with unrealistic goals and demands, while their enemy had modest demands that are now being eroded as Ukraine has decided that these modest demands should be met with a fight to the death fueled by the outdated view of the world that you can’t go wrong when you have the military and financial backing of the US.
And Ukraine is now fighting until there’s nothing left, because while if it was a regional conflict,
this nation would have crumbled and surrendered, it is now sacrificing every life it has
as a constant stream of financial support from the EU, UK and US allows Zelensky to theoretically
go for a zero sum war until there’s no Ukrainian citizen left.
Russia is a regional superpower.
The current power behind Russia, China is the global superpower.
Russia meanwhile is not a victim because it’s winning and they came to the rescue of the Russian Ukrainians who had been suppressed since the coup of 2014.
The victims are the Russian Ukrainians and Ukrainian conscripts as both groups have been duped
into voting for a conman that is unfit to be president and lets his decisions be made by foreign powers
who have no stake in Ukraine and use Ukrainians as cannon fodder as the foreign themselves also have the outdated
view of the world that you can’t go wrong when you have the military and financial backing of the US.
This entire war is currently the biggest example of the failure of liberal democracy.
The Soviet Union did not do anything remotely like this when it started losing power,
dissolved peacefully with geopolitical issues far more difficult to solve than the issues
the US is currently experiencing and yet the US is dropping the ball because it’s a liberal democracy
and a bad one at that.
Ukraine has a card-carrying puppet president elected for the polar opposite for what he was elected for,
all the EU nations have shown themselves to be puppet leaders of the US,
and thrown their economies, which is about 25+ countries, into financial ruin to support this war,
which should have remained a regional conflict of a border and alliance dispute,
and it’s even hurting the US financially as well,
because it is currently China, not the US,
where can’t go wrong when you have the military and financial backing of.
Removed by mod
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
― Jean-Paul Sartre
Considering that I made a comment pointing out the futility of trying to make good-faith arguments within this environment and a mod removed it, I think this is a relevant quotation. Thanks!