“Oppositional Defiance Disorder” is a diagnosis that can get a student an IEP.
So a disruptive, violent child can show up to school every day - throw chairs, bring drugs to school - then get mom or dad to take them to the doc to diagnose them with ODD. It’s a manifestation of their disability.
“Inclusion” also means that these children need to be placed in the same classroom as all the other children. So 29 children are subject to the violence of 1.
Because anyone is going to a doc to request a specific mental health diagnosis to let someone act out…
There are multiple cases for an IEP, and they all require a coordinated approach with teachers, parents, and other faculty. This is not some sort of ‘get out of trouble free’ card that people waive to be given a pass, it’s meant to help accommodate someone struggling with life and help to get the best outcomes for them and others around them.
They don’t even have to get the diagnosis. Parents can request an evaluation to start an IEP and the kid is immune from suspension.
I’m certified special education and have written IEPs myself. The reality if not the intent is that it is a get out of jail free pass.
I don’t know where you are, but around here there needs to be a finding of need in either an emotional-behavior disorder, or an autism spectrum disorder category before an IEP is considered an option. That IEP includes a fairly lengthy set of accomodations and regulations to ensure everyone is following the special exceptions as agreed but none of it makes any indication that they can’t be put out of class, in fact there are entirely separate classes or alternative schools for those with exceptional cases caused by a condition or not.
From a California website but an accurate reflection of federal law.
It’s very cute how everyone assumes that the resources to write accurate IEPs are there. My first year teaching my “IEPs” were a spreadsheet with check boxes for accommodations… every school I’ve worked at has had kids with “resource room” listed as an accommodation without actually having a “resource room,” my “co-taught SPED class” was just me because they used the co-teacher to sub…
So here is the core.
This, is not in accordance with the IEP, and I dont know the channels, but should be reported.
My son is allowed a break, at any time, to go to said resource room, and utilizes it often. He gets frustrated, takes a break in the room, maybe five mins the teachers say, and then he returns with lower frustration levels. Id raise hell over this. The best part of his IEP is this break room, and him being allowed to use is as needed. It is like, harm reduction for sure.
Do you think I haven’t reported things?
I’ve emailed superintendents and the state about things before.
I am trying to raise the alarm here. The system is broken and not working as it is supposed to.
Which seems like a problem with the the district rather than the process. A few years back our district had a major funding levy taken away by the voters, my suspicion being that it was at least in part due to having a fairly large church based school in the area that some wanted to pay for instead. That schools and teachers are criminally underserved is no secret, but it’s not a reason to be upset with the challenging student and the programs around them.
Source: a former spec-ed student of the 80s/90s now trying to navigate being a single dad to a chaotic kid while small town society sits back and judges
You’re a horrible person and should reevaluate whether you should be in charge of the well being of children at all.
Based on the fact that I am informing you of federal law?
I guess the attitude towards education on lemmy I keep seeing makes a lot of sense - the lack of reading comprehension is spectacular. Notice I didn’t even say ODD was an invalid diagnosis, but multiple commenters seem to have hallucinated a little bit of text at the end.
Yes. Because you not only made a post pessimistically cherry picking facts about the the thing you posted, your defenses are revealing that you are resentful and angry about it.
“Cherry picking” - it is a fact that students on IEPs cannot be suspended for more than ten days without a “manifestation determination meeting.” If the meeting determines that the cussing, skipping class, or being physically violent towards children and teachers is a product of the disability, they cannot be suspended for it.
You can find hundreds of teachers on TikTok and elsewhere describing being physically assaulted and expected to just deal with it.
If I was such a shitty person, I don’t think I’d be giving gifts to and smiling at a 16 year old who called me a fucking removed to my face. Probably wouldn’t be spending $200+/month on supplies for a job that pays me so little I need two part time jobs on top either I guess.
Cherry picking is telling specific facts without telling other facts. You can’t beat accusations of cherry picking by showing how your statements are factual. You are being accused of omitting important relevant facts.
And just because you’re good at masking your resentment doesn’t mean you aren’t resentful. If you’re going to educate children, get a therapist and show them this post and your replies to comments.
Or you, know, do what most shitty teachers do and think of yourself as the victim of a system setup to protect children against your interests.
Which important facts am I omitting?
I’m not masking resentment. I am pretty fucking resentful that I am not a mental health professional or social worker, while still being expected to perform their jobs on top of my own.
I have been raped and taught the next day. Believe it or not I’m pretty fucking good at my job.