• jorpy laforge@lemmy.worldB
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    2 days ago

    I agree, based on my own experiences,.that no logic or reason can reach these people. I think we can move the conversation forward by admitting that there is a strong human instinct toward fascism. It’s in our DNA to salute the tallest thing in the room because ancestors that didn’t were purged. Those of us who can reason and maintain values are the exception to this flaw.

    But is there another way to reach them on an emotional or instinctive level? Hope springs eternal in me, and I can’t help but feel the solution involves denying them their group identity and making a mockery and shaming them as pariahs for their bad behavior.

    These days, the fact is that no MAGA scum is a conservative. They are radical revolutionaries, more naive than the most extreme patchouli scented hippies of the 1960s, who have abandoned their Christianity to worship a man who said the constitution should be dissolved simply because he lost a court case. I think this is the key, but I must admit, I’ve never been able to turn one of them. Sagan was right about the deep seated human instinct to ignore shameful evidence when one is tricked.

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      Some are delusional conservatives; and/or some think he’s a conservative that they could use, much like some rich Germans thought Hitler could be used to their advantage.

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      23 hours ago

      These days, the fact is that no MAGA scum is a conservative

      Fuck off. No true scotsman bullshit

      Also why is someone labeled “bot” coming in with, “I agree…”

      Fuck off

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        Fuck off. No true scotsman bullshit

        He is right though. This isn’t some defense that real conservatives are better, this is saying that they no longer conservatives in any definition of that word.

        They are not fiscally conservative (they are responsible for highest deficits), they are not family values conservative (multiple marriages, sexual scandals, and even protecting pedophiles and child traffickers), conservatives by definition supposed to favorite in keeping status quo, but they aren’t there to preserve democratic system (in fact they are actively trying to destroy it).

        At this point Democrats are the conservatives. I mean even the ones we like to think are progressive (like AOC, Bernie Sanders) are saying that were widely supported in the 50s by Republicans.

        The Overton window shifted that much.

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            If you clicked the link:

            Pronoun

            thon (third-person singular, gender-neutral, possessive thons, reflexive thonself)

            1. (nonstandard, rare, see usage notes) they (singular). Gender-neutral third-person singular subject pronoun, coordinate with gendered pronouns he and she.

            2. (nonstandard, rare, see usage notes) them (singular). Gender-neutral third-person singular object pronoun, coordinate with gendered pronouns him and her.