• Walters, Fern@bookwyr.me
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    Now you’re being binarist. The answer is extremely clear: all of them are wrong. All of them had prison slavery. Nobody is emancipated.
    You are a Han supremacist for letting Chinese slave Tibetans. Fuck you. You’re no different than Zionists.

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      You are a Han supremacist for letting Chinese slave Tibetans.

      This is ass-backwards. It was the feudal Tibetan theocracy that enslaved Tibetans, and it was the Chinese state that freed them. The 14th “suck my tongue” Dalai Lama in exile was on the CIA payroll. The 1990s Tibetan Freedom Concerts were a psyop, which I fell for at the time.

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      The answer is extremely clear: all of them are wrong.

      Lmao, I’m being lectured by someone who thinks the Union and Confederacy were equally bad! Hilarious.

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        That, again, is your projection. Nothing I, or Hasan said.
        Since you believe in prisons, send yourself to one right now.
        I read Benjamin Netanyahu is looking for new fodder.
        prisoner tears

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          That, again, is your projection. Nothing I, or Hasan said.

          Nope. I asked if the South was justified since the North had prisons, and your response was that both sides were wrong. You said that the Union was wrong to go in and free the slaves, that it was just as bad as the South because it had prisons.

          If that’s not what you believe, then say it. Say that the Civil War did accomplish something. Say that freeing the slaves was progress, even if it wasn’t done perfectly and completely. Why is that so hard for you to say?

          Since you believe in prisons

          Noting I said implies that in any way.

          I read Benjamin Netanyahu is looking for new fodder.

          And I hear the Klan is recruiting, so maybe they can find a position for you!

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            Because it seems hard for you to realize China liberated none. Or did the Union.

            Noting I said implies that in any way.

            So then you deny the Union imprisoned Confederates?

            And I hear the Klan is recruiting, so maybe they can find a position for you!

            They call themselves MAGA now, and yes, they are looking for more “illegal aliens.” In fact, 500 new Unionists found themselves in prisons somehow. Care to liberate them, Unionist?

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              So then you deny the Union imprisoned Confederates?

              Nope. Maybe there was a better way for the Union to handle Confederates, but regardless, they still did more good than harm by freeing the slaves. Acknowledging that the Union did a good thing by ending chattel slavery, or that China did a good thing by ending serfdom, does not require an endorsement of every single other thing the state ever did.

              Which is exactly why it’s so baffling that you won’t acknowledge that ending slavery was a good thing!

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                Yet serfdom exists in all 4 of these nations. Nothing has been liberated whatsoever.
                Why it’s so baffling that you won’t acknowledge that slavery hasn’t ended?

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                  It isn’t. But progress has still been made.

                  By the way, explain this to me. Tibet also had prisons, did it not? In fact, nearly everyone was a prisoner, because they were not free to leave the land they worked on. So, why don’t you look at that and China and give the same, “both were bad” response that you do with the Confederacy and the Union?

                  “Everything anyone has done in history is completely worthless because it hasn’t instantly created a perfect utopia, except for one little slaver theocracy, which was good because reasons.”

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                    What “progress” has been made that prisons exists on all these nations?
                    Are Palestinians more free now that Hasan made a motion for some government he is uninvolved in?