I also couldnt finish the book cause the 30% I read was 100% misogyny.
Carls exgirlfriend is everything icels see in confident gurls (ok she cheated thats not so nice ). We met the woman who lives next to carl for like a page and she is a portrait of the old mean woman. The next woman is dead and naked, a goblin woman has like 4 lines and one is she wants to fuck carl. The first boss fight is between a overweight latina woman who is a hoarder and Carl. The way the author describes her is just horrible and i dont understand how so many people get past that chapter.
Each of these characters could appear in a dungeon scenario, and there are also women who want to have sex directly and are looted until they’re naked, which makes sense in the book. There are women who cheat on their partners and nagging neighbors, as well as overweight women. But I find it disturbingly obvious that all the women who appear so far are dead and naked, disgusting, and unbearable. The way Carl views the boss fight, without any critical thinking or empathy, is also terrible. The book’s concept is good, but unfortunately, it’s full of misogyny. Good idea, poorly executed, and the writing style is anything but good.
Because it’s impossible for women to be flawed and abusive, and if there’s an ugly person deliberately made uglier by colonizing aliens to dehumanize them that’s obviously sexism?
There are plenty of great women characters in the book, you just decided women can never be the problem in a relationship without it being “problematic” and went downhill from there.
Hell, the most predatory voice in the first book is the male-voiced AI.
That all said, it is hard to tell where Dinniman stands exactly on the spectrum of “the overt sexualization of some of the women and men is specifically a commentary on the commercialization of the indigenous body by colonizing forces” and “that’s a good excuse but he’s also horny and trying to sell books.”
I’m going to generally agree, but I will say that Dinniman really doesn’t hold back when he describes fat people. He uses evocative language generally but some lines felt more like attacks.
I also couldnt finish the book cause the 30% I read was 100% misogyny. Carls exgirlfriend is everything icels see in confident gurls (ok she cheated thats not so nice ). We met the woman who lives next to carl for like a page and she is a portrait of the old mean woman. The next woman is dead and naked, a goblin woman has like 4 lines and one is she wants to fuck carl. The first boss fight is between a overweight latina woman who is a hoarder and Carl. The way the author describes her is just horrible and i dont understand how so many people get past that chapter. Each of these characters could appear in a dungeon scenario, and there are also women who want to have sex directly and are looted until they’re naked, which makes sense in the book. There are women who cheat on their partners and nagging neighbors, as well as overweight women. But I find it disturbingly obvious that all the women who appear so far are dead and naked, disgusting, and unbearable. The way Carl views the boss fight, without any critical thinking or empathy, is also terrible. The book’s concept is good, but unfortunately, it’s full of misogyny. Good idea, poorly executed, and the writing style is anything but good.
Because it’s impossible for women to be flawed and abusive, and if there’s an ugly person deliberately made uglier by colonizing aliens to dehumanize them that’s obviously sexism?
There are plenty of great women characters in the book, you just decided women can never be the problem in a relationship without it being “problematic” and went downhill from there.
Hell, the most predatory voice in the first book is the male-voiced AI.
That all said, it is hard to tell where Dinniman stands exactly on the spectrum of “the overt sexualization of some of the women and men is specifically a commentary on the commercialization of the indigenous body by colonizing forces” and “that’s a good excuse but he’s also horny and trying to sell books.”
I’m going to generally agree, but I will say that Dinniman really doesn’t hold back when he describes fat people. He uses evocative language generally but some lines felt more like attacks.
When he describes
fat peopleeveryone. That’s part of the fun. See also The Juicer in the very same book.In the later books (bk 3-7), some of the strongest friends/fighters alongside Carl and Donut are female characters.
It sounds like someone called him out on his problematic writing.