Yeah, Bernie would have been bad for business for corpo dems, but the real reason inner party members picked HRC was to get her either up or out, then everyone in the Democratic party moves up one level.
Whether HRC won or lost, everyone below her in the pyramid would win.
He reminds me a lot of HRC. We know he exists to run for president, but we know very little about what he actually stands for. We know what he’s against.
He is simply too old. Even if he is the best example of someone who wants to bring people together, after a certain age you can’t really understand what the young people are about.
Soft disagree. A very old man can “get it” without being “Hey fellow youths! 76 skippity toilet bees knees.” But the efforts needed to connect are harder as they get older (like everything else), and Senate is so old, insular, and entrenched its definitely not the place to understand up-to-date issues beyond being spoonfed talking points by an orchestrating team.
Yeah, i was more talking in general terms of old people. Nowadays we also have the added complexity of how fast the world changes. Bernie was born in 1941. He went from computers being practically nonexistent in public life to our modern times, and most of that change was in the last 3 decades - he already was over 50 when windows 3.1 launched in '92.
Not many people that age have the mental acuity left to keep up at all.
Social democratic policies were also just not as popular in 2016 as they are now. In just a few weeks, a full decade will have passed since 2016.
In 2016, people more or less took American democracy for granted. The voters never knew about the danger that Trump’s ideology posed to the republic. This was following eight years of Obama, so right-wingers were thought of as fundamentally just people with bad policy ideas and not people intent on destroying democracy.
Only since then have people really started coming around to social democracy, democratic socialism, and other left-wing ideas. Over time, people have begun to realise, Bernie was right.
It really is too bad that Bernie is so old. He deserves a good retirement, but given the current political climate, he’s going to keep fighting for the working class until the bitter end.
Traditionally, when times are good economically are when people find time to advance social policies. That’s why the Civil Rights movement found success in the 1960s. I’m sure had King marched across the South in 1929, the voters and political class would have had no appetite for it. Democrats through the economy was fixed forever once Obama was elected, but they were evidently wrong.
LOL. Bernie wasn’t the candidate because, brace yourself, he is/was unpopular with the general public. Hillary lost because most people are morons and cannot think for themselves.
People like him, HRC and DWS are the reason Bernie wasn’t the DNC candidate in 2016…and are why we’re in the mess we’re in right now.
Trump didn’t win in 2016, HRC lost.
They were too scared Bernie would expose their crimes and corruption, and now we’re living in the Turd Reich.
EDIT: DWC should have been DWS
Yeah, Bernie would have been bad for business for corpo dems, but the real reason inner party members picked HRC was to get her either up or out, then everyone in the Democratic party moves up one level.
Whether HRC won or lost, everyone below her in the pyramid would win.
He reminds me a lot of HRC. We know he exists to run for president, but we know very little about what he actually stands for. We know what he’s against.
He’s a hater, not a leader.
At first glance I thought “he” was referring to Bernie and my brain started to melt.
On second read, I think you’re talking about Newsom. I hope you’re taking about Newsom.
Sadly Bernie’s brain has also started to melt. I’m a fan of the guy, but not a fan of him in the Senate any more.
Quaint to think he was “too old” back in 2016, though.
He’s 20 years past his prime sadly.
He is simply too old. Even if he is the best example of someone who wants to bring people together, after a certain age you can’t really understand what the young people are about.
Soft disagree. A very old man can “get it” without being “Hey fellow youths! 76 skippity toilet bees knees.” But the efforts needed to connect are harder as they get older (like everything else), and Senate is so old, insular, and entrenched its definitely not the place to understand up-to-date issues beyond being spoonfed talking points by an orchestrating team.
Yeah, i was more talking in general terms of old people. Nowadays we also have the added complexity of how fast the world changes. Bernie was born in 1941. He went from computers being practically nonexistent in public life to our modern times, and most of that change was in the last 3 decades - he already was over 50 when windows 3.1 launched in '92.
Not many people that age have the mental acuity left to keep up at all.
Social democratic policies were also just not as popular in 2016 as they are now. In just a few weeks, a full decade will have passed since 2016.
In 2016, people more or less took American democracy for granted. The voters never knew about the danger that Trump’s ideology posed to the republic. This was following eight years of Obama, so right-wingers were thought of as fundamentally just people with bad policy ideas and not people intent on destroying democracy.
Only since then have people really started coming around to social democracy, democratic socialism, and other left-wing ideas. Over time, people have begun to realise, Bernie was right.
It really is too bad that Bernie is so old. He deserves a good retirement, but given the current political climate, he’s going to keep fighting for the working class until the bitter end.
they were blinded by culture war issues, thats why.
Traditionally, when times are good economically are when people find time to advance social policies. That’s why the Civil Rights movement found success in the 1960s. I’m sure had King marched across the South in 1929, the voters and political class would have had no appetite for it. Democrats through the economy was fixed forever once Obama was elected, but they were evidently wrong.
Who is DWC?
I think they mean Debbie wasserman-schultz ?
The C should have been an S.
Upvote (for everyone), and i’ll fix that
Bernie wasn’t the candidate because got beat, resoundingly at the ballot box across the entire primary.
If you believe that, I’ve got a nice giant golden bridge to sell you.
LOL. Bernie wasn’t the candidate because, brace yourself, he is/was unpopular with the general public. Hillary lost because most people are morons and cannot think for themselves.
“When YOUR thing loses its because it sucks, but when MY thing loses its because everything else sucks.”
enlightened shit
How does living in fascism benefit you?
It doesn’t. And pretending HRC or Newsom is popular won’t save us from fascism either.
20 hour old account doing nothing but tossing insults at people? Nothing of value to see here, folks. Block and move on.
There’s a whole psychology lecture contained in this comment.
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The number of downvotes you received suggests to me that the general public disagrees with you.
Yeah +22 on Lemmy sucks. You got me.
He was too popular…but, in 2016, nobody voted in primaries.