And the dingleberry on top of the shit sundae is that Ford also killed off the EV version. Sure, the F-150 has a lot of problems simply based on its size. But, it is the most popular vehicle in the US and no amount of whining about it is going to change that fact. So, instead of pissing in the wind, the EV F-150 at least tried to meet people where they are. Unfortunately, sales weren’t great and Ford gave up on the project. The only upshot is that the venn diagram of diesel F-150 owners whining about gas prices and Trump voters is a small circle fully inside a larger circle. So, the right people are feeling pain.
Wait they’re no longer selling the F-150 Lightning? WTF, Ford?!
That’s some VW “Oh we didn’t make all the money instantly with BEV cars, so we’ll scale down our fleet and effort because of all the poor shareholders”-shortsightedness (which in VW’s case at least bit them in the arse properly, because right after they did that reversal BEVs got the upswing that everyone with 10+ braincells knew they’d get based on other countries, and now VW is falling behind)
Yup, it’s a dead duck.
Personally, I’m watching the Slate truck with some interest. As I would kinda like a better way to haul trash/yard debris; but, an F-150 (especially the newer, juiced up ones) seems like the type of overkill reserved for killing a fly with a tactical nuclear weapon. I’d be really happy to have one of the older ('90’s era) small trucks with an EV drive train. But those were killed by the rule of unintended consequences.
Ya actually, that is interesting. Thanks for the link.
EDIT: looking at the pictures, it seems like it’s still sized around the current F-150 footprint. But maybe that’s just the body styling making it look bigger.
As I understand it, the F-150 Lightning was the rare beast that was overengineered in the best way. Ford killed it because they figured out that they made more money making batteries for the grid, so they retooled the facilities for that.
If you bought a Lightning, don’t sell it.
I wonder if people will start to use AI to replace the code once Ford drops support.
25 “Flash” trim (mid tier) here. They took some features away in 2024 (80A charging/V2L) but switched to a heat pump making it more winter efficient. And ditched the phone as a key, which is the only thing I really wish they kept.
Best vehicle I’ve owned. And huge space in the back for car seats and crap.
Ford isn’t giving up on electric trucks. It expects to sell the EV Fathom for less than $30,000 next year, and that EV platform is intended to be the foundation of a wide variety of models, with lessons learned from the F-150 Lightning and the Mustang Mach E. One big one they’ve talked about is the advantages of designing an EV from the ground up with no intention of sharing a platform with an ICE powertrain, and minimizing weight from wiring and harnesses following inefficient paths.
Just make sure your schadenfreude doesn’t evolve into stooping to their level. That’s how we’ve ended up circling the drain even in an age of technological boom.
And the dingleberry on top of the shit sundae is that Ford also killed off the EV version. Sure, the F-150 has a lot of problems simply based on its size. But, it is the most popular vehicle in the US and no amount of whining about it is going to change that fact. So, instead of pissing in the wind, the EV F-150 at least tried to meet people where they are. Unfortunately, sales weren’t great and Ford gave up on the project. The only upshot is that the venn diagram of diesel F-150 owners whining about gas prices and Trump voters is a small circle fully inside a larger circle. So, the right people are feeling pain.
Wait they’re no longer selling the F-150 Lightning? WTF, Ford?!
That’s some VW “Oh we didn’t make all the money instantly with BEV cars, so we’ll scale down our fleet and effort because of all the poor shareholders”-shortsightedness (which in VW’s case at least bit them in the arse properly, because right after they did that reversal BEVs got the upswing that everyone with 10+ braincells knew they’d get based on other countries, and now VW is falling behind)
Yup, it’s a dead duck.
Personally, I’m watching the Slate truck with some interest. As I would kinda like a better way to haul trash/yard debris; but, an F-150 (especially the newer, juiced up ones) seems like the type of overkill reserved for killing a fly with a tactical nuclear weapon. I’d be really happy to have one of the older ('90’s era) small trucks with an EV drive train. But those were killed by the rule of unintended consequences.
You might also be interested in the Ford Fathom.
Ya actually, that is interesting. Thanks for the link.
EDIT: looking at the pictures, it seems like it’s still sized around the current F-150 footprint. But maybe that’s just the body styling making it look bigger.
The test platform spottings in the wild put it at Maverick size.
Digging around, that seems to be [just a bit bigger[(https://www.blueovaltrucks.com/ford-maverick-and-old-school-ford-ranger-comparison/) than the old rangers used to be (before Ford supersized them). So, might be a reasonable size for a light truck.
As I understand it, the F-150 Lightning was the rare beast that was overengineered in the best way. Ford killed it because they figured out that they made more money making batteries for the grid, so they retooled the facilities for that.
If you bought a Lightning, don’t sell it.
I wonder if people will start to use AI to replace the code once Ford drops support.
I would have loved one of the EV F150s, but I’m poor
I’m not poor and never would buy one at the current generation, was hoping for them to improve it a bit but here we are
25 “Flash” trim (mid tier) here. They took some features away in 2024 (80A charging/V2L) but switched to a heat pump making it more winter efficient. And ditched the phone as a key, which is the only thing I really wish they kept.
Best vehicle I’ve owned. And huge space in the back for car seats and crap.
Wish they kept making them, maybe in the future
By the time I was considering an AWD one as a sled carrier, they discontinued it. Now I’m looking at old Tundras and Titans.
Ford isn’t giving up on electric trucks. It expects to sell the EV Fathom for less than $30,000 next year, and that EV platform is intended to be the foundation of a wide variety of models, with lessons learned from the F-150 Lightning and the Mustang Mach E. One big one they’ve talked about is the advantages of designing an EV from the ground up with no intention of sharing a platform with an ICE powertrain, and minimizing weight from wiring and harnesses following inefficient paths.
TIL: about the Fathom. Thanks.
Just make sure your schadenfreude doesn’t evolve into stooping to their level. That’s how we’ve ended up circling the drain even in an age of technological boom.
Now I’m stuck trying to figure out what the EV equivalent of “rolling coal” would be.
Tesla roadster blasting 10000psi of compressed air and road debris on anyone around them to hop over a speed bump
Continuing to drive our vehicles for 7 cents per mile.