• Routhinator@startrek.website
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    6 hours ago

    This mindset is the entire problem. “Oh we don’t need to worry about ethics or morals, just efficiency” is exactly the issue with every pro-AI argument and every pro-capatalism argument. Its the issue with our governments, with investing, with corporations.

    I say fuck anyone who argues ethics is not important when talking about efficacy. Fuck that mindset and fuck AI.

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      6 hours ago

      I think the point is that it actually hurts an ethics-based anti-AI argument to also claim that it has no utility, because the no-utility argument is weak and therefore makes the rest of the stance (i.e., the ethics-based argument) look weak by association.

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        Exactly, if you say that AI is ethically bad and doesn’t work, to someone who uses it and clearly sees it works well for them, it just invalidates your argument.

        If you just stick to the ethics your argument can’t be dismissed in that way.

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          Yes! Another problem is, not everyone is using AI in the sense that people think of.

          AI is a large field, it studies many different methodologies and aspects of automation, prediction, generation and observation, yet today most people outside the field use it for LLMs and image generation, which throws the baby out with the bath water.

          In addition to that, there are publicly available LLMs, some have datasets obtained entirely from consenting parties and public domain works. You don’t have to pay billionaire technocratic fascist a single dime to use such marvelous tools computer scientists worked decades to bring forth.

          A machine can never create art, it can never take responsibility and should never be allowed to make decisions, it’s a tool.