I noticed almost everybody here agrees that all AI is bad, and anything produced by AI is slop. and refuse to use any software made in part or in whole with AI or help of AI? Please mention your background and usage of AI with your answer.

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    It’s because we are adults, so we already have better skills than a general LLM. We learned to read, write, and research in school. While I personally didn’t go to art school, many people did, and they developed skills that allow them to make better art than a general use art AI.

    To us, AI is just wasting our time, because it does what we can already do but worse.

    Children are in an unfortunate trap, where they need to spend years producing work that is worse than the LLM to eventually be able to develop the skillset to surpass the LLM. Buying into the idea that it makes your work faster or easier is a trap. You’ll be permanently dependent on it.

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      we already have better skills than a general LLM

      Can you read a thousand pages of tech documentation and find every reference that could be relevant to the issue you’re having in minutes? Then no, you don’t always have ‘better skills than a general LLM’. Humans are better at some things. Computers are better at some things. Use the right tool for the job.

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        It’s funny you sent this just now. I just spent like 45 minutes trying to get Co-Counsel to make a list of all of the cases in a brief I’m working on. It got confused and couldn’t. I would’ve been done by now if I just used my brain. /shrug

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          Are you using AI to help you with legal stuff? I don’t think you should use AI for that since it would have data on rules from all sorts of places, and might not be up to date on laws in your place. Or you could train an AI on exclusively the data in your area, but then (1) you’d need hundreds of models, and (2) they would be much less powerful since the training data is a lot less.

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            CoCounsel is a professional legal service offered by WestLaw. WestLaw is one of the two major legal information companies. They were the ones who transitioned the law from books and brought it online in the 90s. Their dataset is exclusively their databases, which I would guess contain between 90-99% of all American Law ever written.

            CoCounsel does exactly what you said in your earlier comment. It scans thousands of legal documents to find exactly what you’re looking for. If I want to find a case that talks about both the 4th amendment during a jurisdictional issue, it can instantly find a case with a a direct quote.

            In this case, I asked it to do a multi-step process: find ~50 cases referenced in a specific document, alphabetize them, and add a two sentence summary below each one. That was too much for it to handle at once. It got confused.

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              In the US, each state can have its own laws, right? How does the AI handle this?

              Also, how does it understand grammar? Wouldn’t it first need to be trained on a large corpus of text?

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      I agree with you generally. However can you clarify please when you say “does what we can already do but worse”. Can you please clarify ? What is your use of AI? Software development? Engineering? Architecture? Document editing? General usage and research? Paid and advanced models vs free or simple ones?

      Because how you use it with give you a varying set of results.

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        Not OP and sorry you’re getting downvoted when you’re asking genuine questions and not trolling. Mileage varies with AI. Most people aren’t paying for AI services, meaning that they only work with really dumb models. The people creating slop videos, vibe coding usable and useful apps, using AI to do legal stuff are paying AI companies for tokens or they have expensive GPUs with them. Many companies use AI for work and train general models for specific tasks in-house. They aren’t using ChatGPT available to regular people. That’s why AI content can range from slop videos to really good software patches.

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          The experience varies a lot depending how you use it. That is for sure. I don’t k ow why some insist otherwise. However in this thread, most thoughtful answers disregard this because they consider a bigger issue with ethical and environmental impact it has.