• DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    Can EU please make an open source phone?

    We have linux for computers, but we need a “linux” for phones (yes I know Android uses Linux Kernel, I’m talking about like a Libre Non-Google OS)

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      I’m holding my breath for the pinephone to be ready for primetime. I check in on it every so often to see what the current buzz is.

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      U have several fork of android some are great. The issue is I need google service for a lot of proprietary app like uber, banking app etc. Linux phone exist but without an appstore it s useless

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    7 hours ago

    If the EU doesn’t combine forces to get out of this tech-dependency, than what do we have the EU for? I am a big fan the EU, it’s doing many things for us already, but I’m really hoping we can work our way out of this together, and I hope we choose the FOSS-route so that we significantly help the world forward

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      I think our problem is a mix of corruption and tech illiteracy in the European parliament. People are either too deep in the pockets of silicon valley, or they are lazy fucks who don’t understand anything about computers and are unwilling to learn, so they keep believing “Windows is easier”.

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    9 hours ago

    So how are American companies any different then Chinese? Everyone always says Chinese companies have to listen to their government. Never got how American companies would be any different.

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    9 hours ago

    I have been saying this for more than a decade. Shit like this is why privacy laws and stuff regarding warrants and other stuff need to be expanded to private entities as much, if not more so, than government agencies. In the past the idea of a company having that much access to people’s information was unthinkable, and in almost everyone’s mind it was governments we needed to be worried about.

    But that hasn’t been true since the 90s at least with credit cards being used for most stuff and internet purchases being the norm for almost everything.

    Governments in the past needed something to ask for permission to look into you… but companies never did, and since the only thing governments need to do is either buy it or ask nicely it makes many protections kinda moot. The fact that many countries want a strict surveillance state over everyone means even the classic protections we had for a brief while are disappearing, too.

    If there ever is a 2nd enlightenment with protections for people it needs to make the stuff written in the 18th and 19th century look like children’s toys in comparison.

    If you say ‘but what about terrorism and bad people?’ Look around you. They still exist and still rarely get caught unless they fuck up badly. Most of the time it still due to informants and people talking to authorities. In the US the murder rate resolution is only 50% (and that is just arrested and charged, not convicted) and this is because there is a massive distrust of the police. In other countries people are more likely to assist the police and/or they take their jobs far more seriously in terms of forensics… and on top of that they usually have a far lower murder rate which allows more time and resources to be funneled into solving major crimes.

    Better to let 100 guilty men go than 1 innocent person convicted is the usual motto, but they don’t believe that in practice. In reality they are very much kill them all and let God sort out his own. And we can’t keep allowing that shit to happen.

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    Then those EU firms should immediately make getting out of anything and everything Microsoft a top priority. As a US citizen, all our government and companies understand is personal profit and personal data hording. So make it hurt where they will feel it.

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    It’s weird that this was something that Microsoft would have to admit, considering “The CLOUD Act” has made this mandatory for all US based companies anywhere they operate in the world. This has been a law since 2018.

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    How much you wanna bet they already do and have been doing for years? They already spy on the rest of us, why is this any different?

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      Years

      Bruv, the United States government could get any information they wanted if it was stored on US Soil since the dawn of the US. The only thing stopping them was effort.

  • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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    I mean. They’re a USA company. Of course they would be required to follow the laws of the country in which they HQ. Did anyone think anything different?

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      Well pretty sure local laws here say that certain data should stay within the countries borders (like data from accounting firms) so I hope they also encrypted everything to prevent this carrot from accessing it.

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        It’s encrypted, I’m sure. But I highly doubt it’s e2ee. It’s likely as the eula alludes to (end to server to end). So… accessible by MS.

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          Their EULA can’t break our national law, so it can still be e2e encrypted and not accessible by MS

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            While true, in the past, MS has shown us they don’t care about national laws. I’m not saying they don’t e2ee, I’m saying they might not be following this particular national law due to their own national laws. I don’t know.

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              The party in between MS/Sharepoint and our laptops can E2E encrypt everything I am pretty sure, but yes you are right.