No we vote for neither. Maybe you should support a party who has anything to offer or any reason to vote for them other than “we are extremely very evil right-wing genocide supporters, but we promise the other side can still be worse”
Voting to stop 1 genocide is a problem? Impact > Intent. If the intent of your vote is to punish some person or party and the impact of that choice is worse, that’s a problem.
This changes everything. When a broken, antihuman ideology and the unstoppable march of time put you on a trajectory of becoming more identical to the nazis with every passing day, what do you do?
Do you face the ugly truth that a bunch of rich pedophiles lied to you as a child about how our world works and used your cooperation to pursue their own agenda, and move forward from there? Or do you retreat into denial, back into the cycle of the addict to delay contact with the cold metal of reality? We, communists, aren’t your enemy. We’re you from the future, and we’re running out of time to bring you to your senses. While you line up to vote for 99% Hitler, both parties shake hands to build a camp for you.
Please elaborate on France. Compare their size and current political climate to the United States (the country I live it) and outline how to accomplish whatever it is you are alluding to within the confines of reality.
The last decade has only proven that the “burn it down” crowd (who are super active online, but don’t show up IRL to vote against fascists) are never going to show up IRL for the revolution.
Fascism cannot be stopped with your vote. Hitler wasn’t elected and he certainly couldn’t be removed by election. This is the same for Mussolini, Petain, Franco, Hirohito, etc. We don’t “show up” IRL to vote against fascism because we recognize it is a ridiculous exercise in futility. We do show up IRL at our political organizations which lead protests against the Palestinian genocide, fascism, ecocide, the illegal blockade of Cuba and so so much more. Not only do we educate people politically and agitate within our workplaces and community spaces, we (attempt to) build lasting parties that materially provide for the communities they rely on. So far we haven’t had great success and overthrown the bourgeois state, that is because things take time and we are faced with both very powerful enemies and a very well conditioned public.
Can you read? I clearly said that I’d rather have 0% hitler. You, and everyone else, has provided no solution to bringing in the zero genocides guy. Until then, this all just validates my point of: this post is a circlejerk to make you feel better.
“Overthrow your government” and “simply have a better government” are not solutions. They’re wishes. Nothing resembles a concrete plan to make an actual change. My statement stands.
You know most governments get overthrown? Like on a long enough timeline it’s basically inevitable. America is due for a hard reset. You know you still allow slavery as punishment for a crime?
Lmao. They’re only wishes because there’s no way to do them without any effort. Voting is the only acceptable pathway to y’all because you don’t actually have to do anything.
Yet you think people who can’t even be bothered to vote are going to show up for the revolution. How has that worked out in the last decade? Where are y’all?
So you’d vote for genocide as long as the other guy was gonna do 2 genocides?
And you don’t see the problem with this?
So you vote… two genocides? Be an adult and make a choice.
No we vote for neither. Maybe you should support a party who has anything to offer or any reason to vote for them other than “we are extremely very evil right-wing genocide supporters, but we promise the other side can still be worse”
I like how in your mind, the “adult” choice is genocide
Lol gross
Voting to stop 1 genocide is a problem? Impact > Intent. If the intent of your vote is to punish some person or party and the impact of that choice is worse, that’s a problem.
Okay, next round it’s 2 genocides or 3 genocides. You don’t want to let an extra genocide happen, right? Better support the lesser evil!
Next round is 3 genocides vs 4 genocides
This changes nothing. When you have the choice to prevent 1 genocide or not prevent it at all, what would you do?
This changes everything. When a broken, antihuman ideology and the unstoppable march of time put you on a trajectory of becoming more identical to the nazis with every passing day, what do you do?
Do you face the ugly truth that a bunch of rich pedophiles lied to you as a child about how our world works and used your cooperation to pursue their own agenda, and move forward from there? Or do you retreat into denial, back into the cycle of the addict to delay contact with the cold metal of reality? We, communists, aren’t your enemy. We’re you from the future, and we’re running out of time to bring you to your senses. While you line up to vote for 99% Hitler, both parties shake hands to build a camp for you.
Look at the French.
Please elaborate on France. Compare their size and current political climate to the United States (the country I live it) and outline how to accomplish whatever it is you are alluding to within the confines of reality.
Please riot and form a new government.
If the result of your vote is a genocide it’s time to think about the ethics of the continuation of your country.
My country isn’t ethical. I don’t even need to think about that. Still not going to use my vote to let MORE genocide happen.
So you’re not voting for democrats?
Yeah that’s obviously not in question. It’s unethical to continue to support the country and not start burning it all down lol.
The last decade has only proven that the “burn it down” crowd (who are super active online, but don’t show up IRL to vote against fascists) are never going to show up IRL for the revolution.
Fascism cannot be stopped with your vote. Hitler wasn’t elected and he certainly couldn’t be removed by election. This is the same for Mussolini, Petain, Franco, Hirohito, etc. We don’t “show up” IRL to vote against fascism because we recognize it is a ridiculous exercise in futility. We do show up IRL at our political organizations which lead protests against the Palestinian genocide, fascism, ecocide, the illegal blockade of Cuba and so so much more. Not only do we educate people politically and agitate within our workplaces and community spaces, we (attempt to) build lasting parties that materially provide for the communities they rely on. So far we haven’t had great success and overthrown the bourgeois state, that is because things take time and we are faced with both very powerful enemies and a very well conditioned public.
I saw a bunch of them show up. But then the Democrats started arresting, torturing, and crushing them.
And Democratic voters celebrated it.
Still too much bread and circuses!
Can you read? I clearly said that I’d rather have 0% hitler. You, and everyone else, has provided no solution to bringing in the zero genocides guy. Until then, this all just validates my point of: this post is a circlejerk to make you feel better.
Can you read? Overthrow your fascist pedophilic rapist terrorist colonizer owners, lol.
Oh wait the treat supply is still too good to fucking go outside.
I’ve seen plenty of solutions here. You just won’t accept them because points at meme
“Overthrow your government” and “simply have a better government” are not solutions. They’re wishes. Nothing resembles a concrete plan to make an actual change. My statement stands.
You know most governments get overthrown? Like on a long enough timeline it’s basically inevitable. America is due for a hard reset. You know you still allow slavery as punishment for a crime?
Okay, so what’s the actual plan? This is just more of the same. All anyone has done is reinforce my initial point.
Organize. Arm yourselves. Demand justice from the pedophile rapist war criminals.
Lmao. They’re only wishes because there’s no way to do them without any effort. Voting is the only acceptable pathway to y’all because you don’t actually have to do anything.
Yet you think people who can’t even be bothered to vote are going to show up for the revolution. How has that worked out in the last decade? Where are y’all?
We aren’t voting because we don’t want to support genocide not because we “can’t be bothered”
I genuinely wonder if liberals are literate. Do you even try to read what we write?
How has mindlessly voting blue worked out for you in the last decade?
Who said it’s the people that didn’t show up to vote? I’m talking about the people who know that voting is the least impactful tool that we have.
Yes they are, you just don’t like them because you’d have to actually do something about it.