• Pratai@piefed.ca
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      10 hours ago

      And vaping is barely better than traditional cigs despite what people want to believe. They’re both horrible in different ways.

      • Lennard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Don’t get me wrong. Vaping is a highly underregulated market, and only god knows what the flavoring and coloring additives might do to your health. Even the health impacts of liquid base are not fully understood. BUT people who say vapes are just as bad as cigarettes, don’t fully comprehend the damages done by repeatedly inhaling actual smoke.

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          This right here. Vaping needs way more regulation, but come on, the physics here are quite straightforward.

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      No need to argue. Caffeine is only bad for your health if you take insane amounts of it, and coffee itself has actual benefits, something you could literally never state about energy drinks. As for smoking vs. vaping, dunno.

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        20 hours ago

        Is vitamin B really that bad for you? Or taurine?

        The caffeine is mostly what makes energy drinks unhealthy too. That and the sugar but white monster is sugar free so if you put shit in your coffee instead of drinking it properly (black and no sugar), I’d argue that coffee is just as bad for you as energy drinks.

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          B6 can cause nerve damage long term. Taurine is just a part of bile, it is an amino acid that is in basically all meat. You aren’t going to get enough of it from energy drinks to swing the needle one way or the other. They also have sugar or sugar alcohols that can fuck with blood glucose in all kinds of fun ways. Coffee, on its own, is basically just caffeine and water, it is going to be healthier than most other drinks categorically.

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          9 hours ago

          also aluminium cans = microplastics

          aluminium is not safe for storing wet acidic things such as drinks, so the inside is plastic-coated

          i wonder, which is worse: the microplastics, or the aluminium salts that would be the alternative problem?

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          Honestly been wondering that a lot. I drink coffee daily. I don’t feel like it’s killing me. Surely it’s not as bad as monster, but what if the amount I drink comes close to the same impact? Is receiving a daily dose of mental stimulants not supposed be part of a healthy diet? 🫠

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        Vaping is turning out just as bad as smoking the more we learn of its long term consequences.