• DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world
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    IIUC, Trump graduated from the University of Pennsylvania, while Dubya Bush got an MA in Harvard.

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    wp:George W. Bush

    In the fall of 1973, Bush entered Harvard Business School. He graduated in 1975 with a Master of Business Administration. He is the only U.S. president to have earned that degree.[16]

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    However,

    wp:Abraham Lincoln#Early life and education

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    Lincoln was largely self-educated.[20] His formal schooling was from itinerant teachers. It included two short stints in Kentucky, where he learned to read, but probably not to write. After moving to Indiana at age seven, he attended school only sporadically, for a total of less than 12 months by age 15.[21] Nevertheless, he was an avid reader and maintained a lifelong interest in learning.[22]

    elsewhere in the article:

    He gained a reputation for strength and courage after winning a wrestling match with the leader of a group of ruffians known as the Clary’s Grove boys.[45]

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    In adolescence he was tall and strong, participating in jumping, throwing, wrestling, and footraces, and demonstrating exceptional strength.[337] Burlingame notes that Lincoln’s clothes “were typically rough and suited to the frontier”, with a gap between his shoes, socks, and pants that often exposed six or more inches of his shin; “he cared little about fashion”.[338]

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    I think becoming a US President, VP, and a Congressperson should be more open, including to those not born in the US and ≥18 years of age.

    • Necrifyre@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      The idea of the president is to be naturally born. Do you see Americans become presidents/prime ministers of other countries? No, because the people of other countries, want someone who represent them. Not someone who is an outsider, who might not care about the values that the country cares about.

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        So if an American philosopher-king was born in Mexico, became a US citizen at 10, and spent the next 50 years in the US should nonetheless not be allowed to be a US President because she wasn’t born in the US?

        (Let’s say she was born in 1968.)

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            Let’s say a girl was born in Mexico in 1968. Her parents (who are also Mexican) moved to the US soon after and by 1978 become US citizens, which made her a US citizen.

            She gets great grades while in school and integrates fully into American society. Let’s say she goes to university and gets a Ph.d, and later serves 2 terms in the US House of Representatives. Perhaps she could try to be US President. She’s not well known but that was true with the last 3 Democratic US Presidents (Carter in 1974, Clinton in 1990, and Obama in 2006 were relative nobodies).

            Ah, but she’s not a native-born citizen and thus can’t be a US President.