The advantage lemmy has is that unlike reddit, you can easily make a community of the same name, just on a different server in the case of mod disagreements.
Its MUCH harder to powertrip on lemmy, both because the mod tools are ass, and spinning a new community isnt hard.
Didn’t like tenforward have tHe Exodus drama with some mod?
The problem with that rule at Reddit, is that it only exists for the mods, not the users.
So the misbehaving user will pick fights in a sub A, get banned, whine about it in another sub B talking shit of sub A, get banned as well for brigading. Then they go to a 3rd sub C and now actually brigades against subs A and B because their mods invent bullshit rules such as “brigading”.
The unaware users look at this mess and get confused because they can’t recall “brigading” being something forbidden by the general Reddit rules. And while “brigading” is just mod slang for “you shouldn’t incite fights between subs or users” (and anyone can figure it out by searching the word at Google, instead of whining that the mods just like to invent words), there is no rule against this either. Instead there is only a rule for the mods that they have to shut down any user attheir subs who do this.
The consequence is that the unaware users sympathize with the misbehaving one and join their brigade, even if just to taunt the mods into banning them as well. I’ve seen this a lot of times there.
Much harder to powertrip you say? Have you looked in the modlogs and see how moderators ban users in multiple instances that is unrelated to the original instance? It’s very reddit like.
The fact you can look at the mod logs is already something you cant even compare to when using reddit. Youd be suprised how far reddit mods will go.
The ban is also not worth as much as like i mentioned, communities are spread. There isnt always one version of a community of the same name, whereas clones of subreddits on reddit have an insignificant fraction of the traffic compared to a main one.
When a moderator comes in and starts to affect a lot of people, it can cause a mass exodus to a sister community. That doesnt happen really on reddit, because the people left on reddit are slow to change their habits (the fact that most dont use alternatives shows so). The people who use lemmy have generally had the mindset that if you need to switch, then they will do so.
In your first paragraph you hint at shadowbanning.
You can’t even shadowban people at all on Lemmy (as far as I know), while it’s a go-to for unethical Reddit moderators; nothing can be done to stop them and most people don’t even know it exists.
I was shadowbanned from /r/tampa because I asked them to implement removal reasons (a feature that’s existed on Reddit and takes five or ten minutes to set up). That upset /u/md28usmc and he shadowbanned me for it. Asking why I was shadowbanned led to them perma-banning me.
The advantage lemmy has is that unlike reddit, you can easily make a community of the same name, just on a different server in the case of mod disagreements.
Its MUCH harder to powertrip on lemmy, both because the mod tools are ass, and spinning a new community isnt hard.
Didn’t like tenforward have tHe Exodus drama with some mod?
Do Lemmy instances also have that “no brigading” rule of Reddit that only exists for mods?
Because I think that rule contributed a lot to make mods more heavyhanded on their communities, even if they didn’t intend to.
unfortunately they dont, but its easier to block the whole instance. at least 2 instances crossbanned me, even if barely interacted with those.
Not having that rule might be better.
The problem with that rule at Reddit, is that it only exists for the mods, not the users.
So the misbehaving user will pick fights in a sub A, get banned, whine about it in another sub B talking shit of sub A, get banned as well for brigading. Then they go to a 3rd sub C and now actually brigades against subs A and B because their mods invent bullshit rules such as “brigading”.
The unaware users look at this mess and get confused because they can’t recall “brigading” being something forbidden by the general Reddit rules. And while “brigading” is just mod slang for “you shouldn’t incite fights between subs or users” (and anyone can figure it out by searching the word at Google, instead of whining that the mods just like to invent words), there is no rule against this either. Instead there is only a rule for the mods that they have to shut down any user attheir subs who do this.
The consequence is that the unaware users sympathize with the misbehaving one and join their brigade, even if just to taunt the mods into banning them as well. I’ve seen this a lot of times there.
Much harder to powertrip you say? Have you looked in the modlogs and see how moderators ban users in multiple instances that is unrelated to the original instance? It’s very reddit like.
The fact you can look at the mod logs is already something you cant even compare to when using reddit. Youd be suprised how far reddit mods will go.
The ban is also not worth as much as like i mentioned, communities are spread. There isnt always one version of a community of the same name, whereas clones of subreddits on reddit have an insignificant fraction of the traffic compared to a main one.
When a moderator comes in and starts to affect a lot of people, it can cause a mass exodus to a sister community. That doesnt happen really on reddit, because the people left on reddit are slow to change their habits (the fact that most dont use alternatives shows so). The people who use lemmy have generally had the mindset that if you need to switch, then they will do so.
In your first paragraph you hint at shadowbanning.
You can’t even shadowban people at all on Lemmy (as far as I know), while it’s a go-to for unethical Reddit moderators; nothing can be done to stop them and most people don’t even know it exists.
I was shadowbanned from /r/tampa because I asked them to implement removal reasons (a feature that’s existed on Reddit and takes five or ten minutes to set up). That upset /u/md28usmc and he shadowbanned me for it. Asking why I was shadowbanned led to them perma-banning me.
I think you mean communities (subreddits), and that can appear that way with an instance (server) ban.