• Waterpumpee@lemmus.org
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    14 hours ago

    Let’s just say we have house roofs or car roofs. Those are free real estate for solar. However, here, if you want to set solar up as a private person to make revenue you get fucked over by electricy company giving you only lump prices for the energy AND politics give you the whole beraucracy nightmare because you could make 1.72€ revenue that are not taxed!!!11

    I feel like it’s simply not wanted to let small people participate in any way.

    • DireTech@sh.itjust.works
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      7 hours ago

      I doubt anywhere in the world has an electrical utility designed to support paying for users to produce solar. Folks seem to think it should be 1 to 1 on what you produce should equal whatever you would have paid, ignoring all the other maintenance, redundancy and load balancing the utility has to provide.

      Between solar and something like localized battery storage to handle usage surges we could probably handle it better now, but I don’t think anyone is building that kind of system.

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        7 hours ago

        They think that because of how the bills are charged. Every electric utility fee on my bill is per usage. If they had a base ‘admin / maintenance’ cost based development size / type and then usage fee on top I think people would not think it so much.

        • acosmichippo@lemmy.world
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          6 hours ago

          my utility does bill admin fees monthly. I pay them about $8 per month to be on the grid even though my net usage is negative.

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      12 hours ago

      Car roofs don’t work well. The Ioniq 5 had them as an option. It could only charge a few miles daily, and doing the math it would never pay for itself over the lifetime of the car.

      Roof panels on cars also tend to get damaged from rocks and pebbles just like windscreens, and when a solar panel gets a bad section it affects the whole panel.

      Parking lot canopies is a better placement than on the cars. Not only do they produce electricity they, also keep the cars shaded so less energy is used on air conditioning.

      Anyway for small scale personal use, I think the balcony panels are the best option in the places where it’s legal and possible.

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        11 hours ago

        That’s really going to depend on the sun angle.

        In Northern Europe, no it probably won’t work well.

        In Australia - it’d be a godsend - even if it wasn’t adding range it could be used to keep the car cool even when off. Getting into a 50-60c car isn’t fun (and is pretty common during the summer here)