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oinari@piefed.zip to Privacy@lemmy.mlEnglish ·
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Every Mac since 2022 ships a pair of daemons to build a graph about you

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Every Mac since 2022 ships a pair of daemons to build a graph about you

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Anatomy of Apple's Personal Knowledge Graph — Eighth Rank
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Every Mac since macOS 13 (allegedly) ships a pair of daemons whose only purpose in life is to build a graph about who you are, whom you know, how those people are related to you and to each other, how you communicate with them, where you go, what you do and when. In this post, we look into how this system works and give you a tool to peek into your own graph.
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    Apples odd in that they are pretty protective of your personal information, as in they won’t sell it or lets 3rd parties come even remotely close to it, but have very little qualms in abusing it themselves.

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      Not even Google sells any of your data. They collect data and sell advertising spots but not the data itself.

      Selling data only works as a business model if you cannot sell ad spots. That is why news websites have cookie banners with 1000 partners but Google, Facebook, Apple, et al. do not.

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        No, it’s actually much worse than that

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      they won’t sell it or lets 3rd parties come even remotely close to it

      If they secretly let the government double dip, I don’t think I want to trust any other claims they and their marketing makes.

      Apple admits to secretly giving governments push notification data - Ars Technica

      What are the odds that Google also claims it doesn’t sell your data, it “shares” it.

      But would you trust them?

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        Even Apple is going to listen to the government. They have done things to limit what they can tell them but most people don’t use it. And to be fair so has Google it is why location data is now on device instead of on the cloud with Google.

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        All cloud operators are beholden to their governments.

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      I read that Apple was implementing ads in their maps software now. Quick search seems to confirm it. Below is a page blurb originating from Apple’s domain.

      Now businesses can run ads on Apple Maps — right where customers are deciding where to go.

      My initial comment was just satire, but reading through the document I’m just… tired. This sort of analysis originates from America’s intelligence organizations. It’s not surprising that the technique’s bled into private-business–it always happens. Intel. orgs. create a software solution that solves one of their problems and entrepreneurs within those organizations realize private-businesses have similar problems.

      (I will state–because it’s tangentially related–the matrix-protocol originates from individuals linked to mossad. I encourage users not to use matrix.)

      Apples not odd. It’s the same as every other technology corporation.

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        (I will state—because it’s tangentially related—the matrix-protocol originates from individuals linked to mossad. I encourage users not to use matrix.)

        Are you referring to the historic link to Amdocs?

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        Ads don’t violate privacy.

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          Yes they do

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            Only personalised ads do. If someone pays to be shown ahead of competitors no matter who’s doing the search, there’s no personalization.

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              I would argue that it’s bad in a different way. But also, I think non-targeted ads in the internet are very rare

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          If they were random, sure.

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            But they’re not.

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          But can be a demonstration of a violation

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            Also can carry a dangerous payload.

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