When Torture Allegations Threaten a Heroic Narrative: The Uncomfortable Questions Azov Must Answer

  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    16 hours ago

    Fascist gibberish.

    Torture does not create discipline, it creates chaos. Torturers tend to become comrade killers and family killers; training and facilitating torturers is how you get more rapists, traitors, and sabotage. Read Fanon, his observations about French torturers put to bed the idea that this could ever be a useful practice. Torture degrades the human condition and turns people into monsters, and they don’t turn back when the war is done. After this war is over, they’ll just go home and keep torturing.

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      15 hours ago

      Authorities are investigating a clash between protesters and authorities in a Ukrainian village, with one woman detained as officials claim the incident was engineered to heighten tensions.

      Its now being reported that Mr Budanov claimed the female medic had purchased an ambulance prior, dressed in medical clothing and visited the building with the driver days in advance.

      While it remains unknown whether the woman was acting for personal, political or financial reasons, Mr Budanov alleged the clash was a deliberate provocation.

      “Yes, on the one hand there are provocateurs, but on the ⁠other hand there is tension in ‌society,” he said.

      Official inquiries are continuing to take place to determine the cause of the injuries, assess the housing conditions inside the facility and uncover any potential misconduct.

      https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/locals-storm-ukrainian-private-house-after-allegations-conscripts-were-tortured-inside/news-story/77068249644c50496c3e0e402d2f86ea

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      15 hours ago

      Who says there’s torture? A substack article.

      Get yourself together and smell the propaganda.the determination of the facts is for the Ukrainian police, millitary police, government, and or investigators to determine (and so far they’re saying they haven’t found anything worthwhile).

      NOT for some propagandist writing on their blog to determine. Don’t be a sucker or show yourself a fool of Russia by believing whatever is put in front of you.

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        You’re the one saying that the Ukrainian government had to become fascist under the conditions of total war.

        Well, guess what fascists do! They torture. I don’t see why we shouldn’t expect torture to be happening in those conditions, we’re going to hear more and more stories about torture as time goes on.

        Fascism does not create discipline, it creates chaos, because they always start torturing. That’s why fascism collapses.

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          9 hours ago

          No child, I said fascists encourage organized murder. If you can’t even hear and understand the words I say, I’ll have to stop talking to you.