• anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    Why not?

    Because capital will never cede power without a threat of violence (implicit or otherwise).

    China and Russia […] did it all for PENNIES

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        Again, have you tried?

        Every fuckin day, bud. It has quite literally never happened without it.

        Yes, quite sure

        Those are billion-dollar psyop campaigns run by the largest and most well-funded intelligence agencies in the world.

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            Individuals give up their personal wealth every day for a variety of reasons, but the capitalist class writ large has never once been abolished or ceded power to the working class without explicit or implicit threat of violence.

            But even then, a single person using their immense fortune to create a social benefit system is still a threat of violence against capital, and can be used to extract concessions from the capital class. Maybe you’re thinking of violence as physical, but I’m using it to mean any great force capable of compelling action.

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        Yes, quite sure:

        Why? Because of a wikipedia post citing things like the Washington Post? What is your actual evidence? Present your actual evidence of “China and Russia are tricking people on the internet right now into storming Area 51, eating tide pods, electing a fascist”. Not some other claim, not just “oh Russia does some astroturfing”, that specific claim. How about you start with the tide pods.

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          Why? Because of a wikipedia post citing things like the Washington Post?

          There’s 184 sources in there, discredit all of them.

          that specific claim. How about you start with the tide pods.

          Google “Tiktok challenges”.

          But really, I’m more concerned about the electing a fascist part.

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            There’s 184 sources in there, discredit all of them.

            Fuck off with that Gish Gallop. How about you actually present your sources.

            Google “Tiktok challenges”.

            I googled it, found zero evidence about “China and Russia are tricking people on the internet right now into eating tide pods”

            So you were just lying.

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                184 sources supporting a single argument is not a “Gish Gallop”, maybe you should google what that is too.

                They aren’t all supporting a single argument that is not how wikipedia works, dumbass.

                No, I was being facetious, and you took me too literally.

                So you were lying.

                China is tricking children into doing dangerous things via Tiktok.

                Prove it.

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                    They’re a list of instances where Russia was caught influencing people online to harbour extremist views.

                    No, they aren’t. Not how citations work. And that would be a Motte-and-Baily even if it was.

                    Are you autistic, by chance?

                    A Nazi, a lier, and an ablest? You really are the full fascist package.

                    They own Tiktok, Tiktok is spreading dangerous shit everywhere, except China. Wake up.

                    So, you have no evidence, it’s just a xenophobic conspiracy theory.