The more I hear people talk about it who aren’t cis-het men, the more I hear criticism about the concept. But so far, I’ve only heard people say that it’s stupid, that it’s not a thing, that it’s men’s own fault etc. But I’ve yet to understand where that criticism comes from. I don’t want to start a discussion on whether or not it’s real or not. I just want to understand where the critics are coming from.

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    I think it’s important to note the incels often mean “the women I think are hot won’t fuck me”

    They could find a girlfriend if they improved their personality or lowered their standards but they don’t want to do that.

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      They can’t. They’re suffering from plenty of problems - body dysmorphic disorders, PTSD, OCD, personality disorders. They would need a lot of help. But who’s going to help them? Nobody because they’re rejected by everyone ouside of their peer group, for good reasons. And this keeps them in a loop.

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        I’m a recovering drug addict. Nobody wanted to help me, rejected by everyone who wasn’t a recovering drug addict.

        I got out of the loop.

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          Good for you. But addiction is different from the mentioned mental issues, especially personality disorders. It’s actually good to not receive help as an addict.

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            “It’s actually good to not receive help as an addict”

            That’s… silly lol. Where did you pull that idea from?

            It’s different because physical addiction is harder to deal with, you can die lol

            I was also homeschooled in the Texas countryside as a kid… I understand being lonely… addiction is harder.

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              Experience. Not only my own but of everybody I’ve ever met who had contact with addicts. If you support an addict you’re an enabler, ultimately making it worse.

              I understand being lonely… addiction is harder.

              I was talking about serious mental issues but whatever. Have a nice day.